why?
Turboman
Mab An Gov
Not sure if that will make her popular, schools in urban areas are trying to discourage that, on safety and environmental grounds.
And, as above^^^^, do bear in mind that diesels may not be permitted in urban areas in a few years time.
steve_jones_70
New Member
That won't be a problem, we live in a barn conversion in the countryside and the primary school is in a little village, an Evoque will probably look like a Mini compared to the motors the farmers wifes will turn up in.
Turboman
Mab An Gov
I was probably confused by your location saying London.
DevonGuy
Well-Known Member
No, he's the boss, he's an expert driver and knows everything. I normally get 20 miles to work through snow in my FL1, but by the time he gets in from his arduous 5 mile drive, worse snow has fallen. 4x4s are crap in snow.
Turboman
Mab An Gov
Never really had a problem in British conditions in my car, TBH.
steve_jones_70
New Member
Only just realised in said that, Ive now changed it to Shropshire, much more appropriate.
I would still rather go full EV for anything else that isn't my off roading motor and for use on paved roads at my own expense, currently looking at options for next year when I am thinking to replace the little pug, from a running costs POV I would say that the 10yr old Evoque is going to be mega expensive in repairs and maintenance than a 3yr old EV on finance deal, then there is the potential of being taxed into oblivion at the pump and in road tax for it being diesel.
Good luck with it when you buy but weigh up your options carefully when you think you're ready to buy.
steve_jones_70
New Member
Haha I have way more to worry about before then and yes so much could change. I may be earning less money, earning more, diesels maybe taxed higher or we move home. Hopefully 10k should be enough to buy one of these Chelsea tractors in the future though. Personally I'd be happy with a Freelander 1 for less than £2k.
JimS
Well-Known Member
These LEZ's are just a bit of tokenism for the political types, I can see city centres becoming more restrictive but can't see it rolling out to rural areas and towns, aside from councils using it as a way to extract more money of course, but an outright ban would be unlikely.
They will just stop making diesels and let the ones on the roads rust away possibly assisted by some scrappage scheme or other
They will just stop making diesels and let the ones on the roads rust away possibly assisted by some scrappage scheme or other
steve_jones_70
New Member
I really don't get the problem with diesels in rural locations, yes parents doing the school run in a diesel in a city would be a problem but we live 5 miles away from the nearest school.
Turboman
Mab An Gov
I don't think the legislators agree with you. They are determined to see the end of IC engined private cars, it is just a matter of timescale.
Maybe 10 years, maybe 20. There is some pressure to see the process accelerated.
Turboman
Mab An Gov
IC emissions probably contribute to climate change, acidification of the oceans, and several localised pollution issues.
JimS
Well-Known Member
Yes but in 10 or 20 years there will probably be a cheap drop in electric power unit for retro fitting in any 'classic' surviving vehicles
The way things are going it will be the size of a biscuit tin, have a 1000 mile range and develop the equivalent of 1000bhp....
So trashing the diesel engine becomes a no brainer.
In terms of emissions yes, a contributory factor although the latest diesels are pretty good, but what pains me more is how much green space and forestry is becoming levelled for housing. Natures lungs...
Turboman
Mab An Gov
Another possibility is that people will give up driving as public transport improves, and make more use of other options, like walking, and, whisper it, cycling. We are already seeing steps in these directions, and they are being encouraged by the authorities.
Agree completely, tree planting is an effective way of offsetting carbon dioxide emissions. There is in fact quite a lot of unproductive land that could be re-forested, but hasn't been, for a variety of reasons.
JimS
Well-Known Member
Yes all those forests that are being levelled are being replaced with houses- with no garages or parking
As for the masses using public transport, walking and cycling- pretty sure when the first world and the third world do the old economic swapperoo this century, this will probably happen.....
Turboman
Mab An Gov
Yes all those forests that are being levelled are being replaced with houses- with no garages or parking
As for the masses using public transport, walking and cycling- pretty sure when the first world and the third world do the old economic swapperoo this century, this will probably happen.....
Been spending a bit of time in Central London lately, most of the new developments there are entirely pedestrian, there are ways for delivery vehicles to access the shops and houses underneath, but the public areas are car free.
Also been talking to a young chap who is doing urban planning at University, he is of the opinion that there will be little or no private car use in cities in the space of a few decades. And that planning decisions will reflect that.
