day 1 - 40 miles:

No change in performance, or perhaps slightly down (might be time to change filter?)

Give it a while to clean out the crap first.

Starts OK even in sub 0 temps (bit lumpy to start with but once cyl 5 warms up she's ok)

Mine the same ... I wait till the ECU is definitely in control of 5 cyls and all ticking over, usually just under 1,000 rpm after a cold start.


Smells a bit funny out the back!!

AND ??????

engine is MUCH quieter. was a bit tappy top end before but now much reduced (injector lubrication?)

Mine is the same and I think it is because SVO has a much improved ignition characteristic compared to Dino-Diesel.

How much are you saving per litre?

Charles
 
Veg oil works out at 85p lt compared to derv which is 115p round here. Going to see if local ph will let me have waste oil ?!
 
Veg oil works out at 85p lt compared to derv which is 115p round here. Going to see if local ph will let me have waste oil ?!


I was at ASDA today.
My Disco TD5 was a bit low on fuel, down to a quarter tank, so threw in 18 litres of veg. oil.

Saved 27 pence a litre compared to Dino-Diesel, which saved £4.86.

Nearly a fiver saved ... and it drives smoother. Where's the difficulty?

CharlesY
 
Heelo fellas.
Newbt here. Been readin all this thread and might have a bit to contribute.
First tho, dus any 1 have experience of used engin oil in a 200tdi?

what model fuel injector pump is on the tdi?

i used to use wvo in a peugeot and then in mi transti. theres some BIG issues to be aware of.
 
Has anyone worked out how to remove/hide the red dye in red diesel so it looks white if the tank was ever dipped?
 
Has anyone worked out how to remove/hide the red dye in red diesel so it looks white if the tank was ever dipped?
Yes but it would cost more to remove the dye than to buy ordinary diesel.
The filters required are mega bucks and operate at microscopic filtration levels. They use high voltage electricity to draw the dye molecules out of suspension. Also there is not just a colouring dye in red diesel. There are added chemical markers that show up when the diesel is tested by the revenue bods. Otherwise you could mix it with some photocopier toner and mask the red colour.

If you could crack this cheaply then you'd be a very rich man.
 
Yes but it would cost more to remove the dye than to buy ordinary diesel.
The filters required are mega bucks and operate at microscopic filtration levels. They use high voltage electricity to draw the dye molecules out of suspension. Also there is not just a colouring dye in red diesel. There are added chemical markers that show up when the diesel is tested by the revenue bods. Otherwise you could mix it with some photocopier toner and mask the red colour.

If you could crack this cheaply then you'd be a very rich man.

My first thought was to add another dye that would neutralise the red (bit like being back at primary school where you use two paints to make another colour)

The chemical markers I did not know about. :doh::doh:
 
My first thought was to add another dye that would neutralise the red (bit like being back at primary school where you use two paints to make another colour)

The chemical markers I did not know about. :doh::doh:
Dont ask me how I know but suffice to say I do now.
If you search about on the web its there to find.
 
Dont ask me how I know but suffice to say I do now.
If you search about on the web its there to find.


I guess another way round it is what a lad I used to work with did.

He fitted a second tank in the boot well in place of his spare wheel for the red and isolated the main tank which was kept with White in it. I never heard of him gerrin dipped and he's still running round in the same motor now and with his dad being a farmer he has a never ending free supply of red.

Mind you, last I heard red wasn't that much cheaper than than White anyway.
 
Central heating oil, any pros or cons to using this? I heard it doesn't have the same lubrication qualities as derv. :s
 
Central heating oil, any pros or cons to using this? I heard it doesn't have the same lubrication qualities as derv. :s


There are two kinds of that:

35 seconds heating oil - which is none other than RED DIESEL.

28 seconds heating oil - which is KEROSENE.

Kerosene is a good fuel in diesels BUT you need to add LUBRICATING OIL to it so the injection pump doesn't come to harm.

CharlesY
 
There are two kinds of that:

35 seconds heating oil - which is none other than RED DIESEL.

28 seconds heating oil - which is KEROSENE.

Kerosene is a good fuel in diesels BUT you need to add LUBRICATING OIL to it so the injection pump doesn't come to harm.

CharlesY

What kind of lubricating oil? just normal engine oil? and how much oil would you add to a litre of kerosene?
 
Dont forget that the revenue can also test for kerosene, parafin, white spirit, camel ****, and any other type of fuel. If you get caught it'll cost you dearly and may even cost you your motor.
 
Dont forget that the revenue can also test for kerosene, parafin, white spirit, camel ****, and any other type of fuel. If you get caught it'll cost you dearly and may even cost you your motor.


In a gallon of kero, perhaps half a pint to a pint of the cheapest engine oil you can find, and USED engine oil would be fine. Do NOT use gear oils, as they contain all sorts of nasties, particularly chlorine and sulphur. Eats up alloys.

They started adding markers to kerosene some time ago.

USED engine oil makes the contents of your tank very black.

CharlesY
 
gave mine a treat today.
30litres of normal diesel @111.9 Morrisons & then 15 litres of Morrisons own brand Sunflower oil £2.52/ 3litres (thats 84p/litre)
Thats a £5 saving on straight diesel fill already.
'n she seems to like it so far...

Will report back after a few days.
2 new fuel filters ordered from Craddocks yesterday in anticipation....:)

Have just taken delivery of 200 litres of WVO.
Need to filter before use though.
Not sure wether to buy 2x 100 & 10 10" micron filters or to get a centrifuge.
Anyone got any first hand experience of either?

cheers T
 
Centriguge filters are expensive and you need a decent pump to make them work.
They work at high pressure, high flow rates.
They also need several passes to get maximum effect.
I'd start with the cheaper option until you decide that homebrew is for you.
 

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