saxmanuk

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Hi all. Have searched but not quite got the answers for the following of which I hope you can help
Have the 200tdi out as I am doing a new chassis complete rebuild on the landy so decided to clean and check the engine. Today sump and ladder off and oil pump removed.

questions.

If I remove a crank or big end to check the bearing is ok and not down to copper - is it ok to literally just put back on and torque up?
If the bearings are down to copper but the crank is not scored then do I replace with same original size?

The ladder frame to block had no gasket on it is this right or do I Rtv it when I rebuild ? thanks
 
Hi all. Have searched but not quite got the answers for the following of which I hope you can help
Have the 200tdi out as I am doing a new chassis complete rebuild on the landy so decided to clean and check the engine. Today sump and ladder off and oil pump removed.

questions.

If I remove a crank or big end to check the bearing is ok and not down to copper - is it ok to literally just put back on and torque up?
If the bearings are down to copper but the crank is not scored then do I replace with same original size?

The ladder frame to block had no gasket on it is this right or do I Rtv it when I rebuild ? thanks
yes to both and use some stud lock on the conrod studs, bottom bearing shell on mains is likely to be most worn top on conrod
 
yes to both and use some stud lock on the conrod studs, bottom bearing shell on mains is likely to be most worn top on conrod

Was surprised there was no sealant between the block and the ladder frame ?
Apparently there is a special sealant for this ? Stc611? Or can I use rtv?
 
Was surprised there was no sealant between the block and the ladder frame ?
Apparently there is a special sealant for this ? Stc611? Or can I use rtv?
rtv is fine aslong as both surfaces are oil free,wipe down with brake clean or thinners first
 
Shell size should be marked on the back of the shell itself, anything less than perfect needs replacing.
 
Ok - finally got around to doing the full strip down on the 200tdi engine - please see photos below
One note is that this is a run around and I don't do loads of miles on the engine
  1. Big end bearings are starting to show copper on most of the pistons
  2. Main Bearings also showing copper ( only 4 as haven't taken off yet - the end mains still on cos I need to pull the crank out - question coming later!
  3. The Crank itself is barely marked at all! only found one small mark in the centre main.
  4. Pistons in line from number 1 on the right show lots of carbon on the sides of the pistons
  5. Bores show some carbon and wear
  6. I did the 'filling the cores with fuel' trick to see what the compression / leakage was like and after 4 hrs there was barely a leak - although when I check this morning the bores were dry.

Advise as always please

I need to remove the crank to replace the main bearings -
  • I believe the bearings are std as there are no markings on the bearing besides the part number? so do i replace with std if i don't touch the crank?
  • How do I remove the crank and cam timing gears ? do I need an expensive puller - or is there a trick
  • EDIT - just realised - can i replace the mains without removing the crank? i.e. slide them around the crank in situ ?
Pistons
  • Do I change the rings or because they were actually OK - do I leave them
  • I replace the big end with standard bearings as well? - however are those pistons ok or can you decoke and clean pistons
  • There is no play on the small ends
Block
  • Do I have the block honed or bored by whatever is the next size up ?
  • in that case I need larger rings as well ?
Cam Followers look brand new - is there anything to check for wear

As always many thanks
Sean [/ATTACH]
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you either leave rings and bores alone or hone and fit new rings(gapping each one in the bore its going to live in first before fitting to piston)
 
you either leave rings and bores alone or hone and fit new rings(gapping each one in the bore its going to live in first before fitting to piston)
so you think the pistons are ok as is then James ?
and by gapping you mean using feeler gauges to set the rings?
 
Fititng the main bearing shells by spinning them into place is std practice in hgv world.

I would probably give them bores a light hone and use again, try and use long stones thay way you will be able to see an wear, do not try and remove any wear, basically insert tool spray with duck oil/diesel/etc then a few seconds on the trigger and that its.
 

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