Burrell8

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I want an 'unstoppable' D2 (not my quote!!!), but have no CDL (02 ES Model).

Now, can I buy a 2nd hand TB off a D1/early D2 with CDL and either add the bits to my TB or swap them completely?

I would recondition the new box first with kit from Ashcroft, not knowing it's history..... (if I went down total swap route).

I know I can get lever/linkage from Ashcroft and they do a kit fir CDL, but it's quite pricey!!!

Thanks

Tom V
 
I want an 'unstoppable' D2 (not my quote!!!), but have no CDL (02 ES Model).

Now, can I buy a 2nd hand TB off a D1/early D2 with CDL and either add the bits to my TB or swap them completely?

I would recondition the new box first with kit from Ashcroft, not knowing it's history..... (if I went down total swap route).

I know I can get lever/linkage from Ashcroft and they do a kit fir CDL, but it's quite pricey!!!

Thanks

Tom V

Hi Tom, can I just say that a DII with an operational CDL is in no way unstoppable and I would suggest that you give some real thought to what you want to end up with.

I guess we are predominantly talking about operating in mud? Obviously tyres play a huge part in this and a DII with good mud tyres even in std trim (having only traction control) will work very well indeed. However one needs to learn how to use TC (like any other bit of kit) to get the best from it.

Ultimately though you will get stuck, so thinking of this in stages, the first stage would be to have an operational CDL - which ensures a 50/50 split of drive to the axles. However this only ensures that you have drive to both axles, it does not guaranttee movement!! If one wheel on each axle is spinning, there is no movement!!

Next step: ltd slip or lockable rear diff. This ensures that with a CDL and some form of semi or locking rear diff, you will have drive not only to the rear axle but across as well. So in a very high percentage of cases, you will have movement.

However this comes at a cost. The market is wide but you need to be budgeting £1000 to £1500 for the rear end solution.

The stage after that is a front locking diff, more guaranteed traction, reduced steering whilst operational and more cost.



My advice: get some top notch tyres before anything else, you may find that it will give you all you need.

Having extensively used Khumo Mud Terrain tyres - AVOID THEM LIKE THE PLAGUE!!!! BFG AT's worked loads better in the same terrain.


Good luck with your choices

Dave
 
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Thanks Dave, food for thought, I've just bought a set of general at's on steel wheels, so I'll see how they go before making the next move.

Can I use the bits off another and retro fit or am I best use the whole box?
 
Thanks Dave, food for thought, I've just bought a set of general at's on steel wheels, so I'll see how they go before making the next move.

Can I use the bits off another and retro fit or am I best use the whole box?


You could try a bitsa approach bit if it was me, I would be buying a complete tranny box, fettling it then putting the whole lot in. As they are starting to get older I would be going for a DII tranny box then buying the linkage cable and lever from T62 if he still does them.
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Dave
 
depends on whats on your box ,if you d1 box it wont have hi/low switch ,which can be left or another in car switch fitted ,some d2 boxes dont even have hole in front casting to fit operating lever etc and require another housing and center diff reshimmed,the easiest is to use a ox from a d2 with cdl mechanism ,ive fitted all types for different people even using 300 gearbox top and hi/low lever plus linkage as guy had it free
 
or learn to drive properly 1st..

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And that's helpful how? I do have a lot of 'gear', making half size traction engines is my first hobby so I have a heavy engineering workshop. I have also always maintained my own cars, always have always will. I am new to discoverys and land rovers and I'm asking questions to find out answers, if I don't ask I won't learn. You were a 'newbie' once remember. It's all to easy to be sarcy and witty, it takes intelligence to be helpful as others have!
 
Thanks to the rest of you, I'll 'learn to drive' with my new tyres first then see where to go from there.

Tom
 
And that's helpful how? I do have a lot of 'gear', making half size traction engines is my first hobby so I have a heavy engineering workshop. I have also always maintained my own cars, always have always will. I am new to discoverys and land rovers and I'm asking questions to find out answers, if I don't ask I won't learn. You were a 'newbie' once remember. It's all to easy to be sarcy and witty, it takes intelligence to be helpful as others have!
it also takes itelligence to realise when your being a knob
 
I'd just leave it for now ... I do some varied off roading / green lanes and never really struggle for not haveing no locking diff I'm used to driving series so raised on haveing the props locked together ... But the disco does have its limits your never gonna get where some 88" 90" will get so no point in trying and wrecking the car ..plus the disco is a little on the plump side ....use it and find out its limits they might be higher than you think a d no need for a cdl .......
 
Yeah, I think I'll see how I get on with the new tyres. I've not got stuck yet, but I am cautious as it is the family car as well! I've been pleasantly surprised with the performance of the disco so far, so glad I didn't buy the Range rover that was second option.
 

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