craigoodwood
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Can you not send the stud back in with what you have protruding and take it out the other side?
Shippers
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Acetone/ATF mix doesnt leave an oily residue as neither are an oil...
ATF not an oil?
Shippers
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As far as I know its a synthetic compound more like a detergant which is why it works so well with acetone as it mixes rather than dilutes oil...also heat and beewax works as well due to caplllary action...
The lesson is that when the bolt starts to undo, and then goes tight (because the exposed thread is damaged and you are now dragging sh*t through) the you go back in and attack with a wire brush (which is what you should have done in the first place) and apply copious amounts of PlusGas/WD40/similar, undo until it goes tight and repaeat.
How do I know, i've snapped bolts (like you have) in the past ...
A welder is how I got out of it too
Good luck
How do I know, i've snapped bolts (like you have) in the past ...
A welder is how I got out of it too
Good luck
Shippers
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Why would you use WD40 its the code for water dispersal 40th formula bit late for rusted nuts...
I 100% agree, WD40 is horrible stuff, but it will penetrate in between a bolt and it's thread and it will provide some lubrication when undoing a tight bolt.
It is not a permanent solution for anything mechanical but will 'soak into' oxidised metal, clean oil residue off engine blocks and stops sap/wood residue sticking to your silky saw and axe heads
It is not a permanent solution for anything mechanical but will 'soak into' oxidised metal, clean oil residue off engine blocks and stops sap/wood residue sticking to your silky saw and axe heads
Shippers
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I 100% agree, WD40 is horrible stuff, but it will penetrate in between a bolt and it's thread and it will provide some lubrication when undoing a tight bolt.
It is not a permanent solution for anything mechanical but will 'soak into' oxidised metal, clean oil residue off engine blocks and stops sap/wood residue sticking to your silky saw and axe heads
Acetone/ATF is the best and cheapest as you make it yourself with no need for a can of compressed air to waste your money on...down at the garage we call it the secret raspberry juice...
I've got some of that (I think) .... i will try it
Would Xylene work instead of Acetone ?
@Shippers uses ATF, I use EP90, probably equals. I'm sure that any fast evaporating solvent would work and have often thought to try brake cleaner (Tetrachloride). All pretty nasty chemicals though, take care.I've got some of that (I think) .... i will try it
Would Xylene work instead of Acetone ?
Shippers
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Brake cleaner is similar to acetone...my mate down at garage bought some industrial acetone didnt mix with ATF went cloudy and seperated no use at all I use synthetic acetone have the mix in a plastic tub and a little dropper bottle that used to hold hot chilli sauce...lol...
Shippers
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Which is what dry cleaning shops use...
I think we're going to have to disagree on some of the chemistry!
Shippers
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ATF is a non-oil based synthetic fluid produced in a lab is it not..
I'm not sure that synthetic necessarily means what you think. I think ATF is oil-based. And acetone can only be acetone, no matter how it's made. One atom more or less and it ain't the same thing at all.
Shippers
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As far as I know modern ATF is not oil based but lab made like brake fluid etc and is more like a detergent and silicone based...we can buy 3 types of acetone here synthetic,enamel/varnish and industrial...also would it not be called ATO as in oil not fluid?...
As I said, I think ATF is oil-based. Synthetic and lab imply some kind of techno magic, but in this case just mean that the base products get chemicals added which react with the oil fractions to modify their properties. These days I'd imagine all oils have spent time in a lab before being signed off and industrialised.
I'll stand by what I said. Acetone is acetone. If other stuff is added then it's an acetone-based something else. The only natural acetone is the stuff our bodies make so you could sat that all the stuff you buy is synthetic - even if it hasn't had something else added. Confusing isn't it?
Fluids are anything that can't sustain a shear force. That category splits into liquids and gases. Branding ignores that and plays with language as usual, but in the case of ATF I think it was because its creators wanted to emphasise that it's not really a lubricant and wanted to differentiate if from plain old oil. And probably to be able to charge more for it.
I'll stand by what I said. Acetone is acetone. If other stuff is added then it's an acetone-based something else. The only natural acetone is the stuff our bodies make so you could sat that all the stuff you buy is synthetic - even if it hasn't had something else added. Confusing isn't it?
Fluids are anything that can't sustain a shear force. That category splits into liquids and gases. Branding ignores that and plays with language as usual, but in the case of ATF I think it was because its creators wanted to emphasise that it's not really a lubricant and wanted to differentiate if from plain old oil. And probably to be able to charge more for it.
Synthetic diesel?
Just normal stuff but it seems to mix ok with a good stir
