SpringDon · Mar 25, 2016

waldamar said:
Not the issue here though, the op wants to replace his chassis with the one from vehicle b - if he keeps vehicle a's identity and scraps vehicle b's identity he has...................... simply replaced his chassis. Exactly the same as if he had bought a new replacement chassis - no? Seems this "can't use a 2nd hand chassis" is very sweet for the new chassis manufacturer.

Doh! That's exactly what you can't do (legally). Everything should be taken off a and put onto b then a should be scrapped or rechassised.
It seems quite simple to me but here explains it better than I can...
http://www.glencoyne.co.uk/vosalaw.htm

waldamar · Mar 25, 2016

SpringDon said:
Doh!

have a lovely afternoon my friend

EeEk · Mar 25, 2016

Its best not to mention any of it on the internet because the world and his dog now knows

And everyone of the dogs is an expert

samc88 · Mar 26, 2016

The points system doesnt include like for like replacements, so if he swaps all the running gear into the new chassis and builds up using the new chassis' id then alls good. To all intents and purposes he has simply rebuilt that vehicle, his other one would simply go for scrap and be recorded as such.

tacr2man · Mar 26, 2016

Chockydogs said:
The Chassis on my series 3 isnt that great and I bought another chassis with V5 etc.
The chassis itself is OK and has got the ID plate etc (not an ID plate and bag of rust) , Now hers the thing - I wouldnt buy a chassis without an ID as there is a risk of it being stolen.
But after sending off for the reg doc, DVLA want photos of the complete vehicle and serial numbers for the engine, transmission, axles etc. It might well be that the purchased Chassis and V5 with relevant chassis number is
already in the system , so DVLA is checking to see if there are two vehicles in existence with the same numbers. Either way you need to tell them what you have , seeing as you "did the right thing" by contacting them . It could end in you not being issued a V5 for your new "vehicle" , other options may be possible , but get the first hurdle sorted. You may have recourse against the seller if they have sold you a pig in a poke .

Anyone else had this ? it is not built up yet - just pained the bare chassis and it's not that its going to be going anywhere for a while, but theres not much point me doing anything to it if it wont be legal.

Vinlander · Mar 26, 2016

You can ring them up and ask them as a theoretical. In my experience, once you get through they're quite happy to help.
I think what I would be asking is "If I buy a chassis with V5, do I need to build the vehicle before I can get a reg for it?"
Likely the "donor" was scrapped, so DVLA wants evidence of rebuild + new engine no etc. if it's being reinstated. They may want to give it a new reg, which may require SVA.

solvista · Apr 2, 2016

https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/theseuss-land-rover.298190/

RSW · Feb 16, 2017

Hi There, I am new here and I am looking for a Series Land Rover to titivate and tinker with. I see loads of vehicles that are tax exempt series 3 and I am aware these vehicles are so modular that a strip down and rebuild using a new galvanised chassis is easily possible and the rebuild can be done to make the car look much much newer. The net result is the car is 95% a new car... but it retains the identity of the original almost donor car doesn't it?
Is this correct?
Thansk

Dragonwalker · Feb 16, 2017

RSW said:
Hi There, I am new here and I am looking for a Series Land Rover to titivate and tinker with. I see loads of vehicles that are tax exempt series 3 and I am aware these vehicles are so modular that a strip down and rebuild using a new galvanised chassis is easily possible and the rebuild can be done to make the car look much much newer. The net result is the car is 95% a new car... but it retains the identity of the original almost donor car doesn't it?
Is this correct?
Thansk

Points mean prizes.

blue beasty · Feb 16, 2017

RSW said:
Hi There, I am new here and I am looking for a Series Land Rover to titivate and tinker with. I see loads of vehicles that are tax exempt series 3 and I am aware these vehicles are so modular that a strip down and rebuild using a new galvanised chassis is easily possible and the rebuild can be done to make the car look much much newer. The net result is the car is 95% a new car... but it retains the identity of the original almost donor car doesn't it?
Is this correct?
Thansk

Yes, so long as it's a new replacement chassis and the old one is destroyed. You also need enough original components whether new or not to meet the points system requirements.

neilly · Feb 16, 2017

RSW said:
Hi There, I am new here and I am looking for a Series Land Rover to titivate and tinker with. I see loads of vehicles that are tax exempt series 3 and I am aware these vehicles are so modular that a strip down and rebuild using a new galvanised chassis is easily possible and the rebuild can be done to make the car look much much newer. The net result is the car is 95% a new car... but it retains the identity of the original almost donor car doesn't it?
Is this correct?
Thansk

You are entering a murky area, if you do a search you may find the link to the gov website ref the rebuilding of a car and what is required. It seems to change and there are some areas that some may exploit. There used to be the points system , which I think ( and i may be wrong ) has been superceded by a different system.

Cheers

tacr2man · Feb 16, 2017

Look at it as two stages
stage 1 if its a new replacement chassis ( that is not an old refurbished chassis which has already had a number stamped into it) you need to have receipt for it as new part . You then need to destroy the old chassis , I took pics
and cut out the part with original vin stamp , and retained it . As for stamping number into new chassis , thats up to you , DVSA would know it was not stamped by LR , but I stamped mine on also in a non standard place a second time (they are very stealable) .
Stage 2 You can replace other parts as long as they are a like for like replacement eg leaf springs for leaf springs not coil modded chassis . If you start changing things like auto box instead of manual etc etc , you will lose points and if you lose sufficient you will not have enough to retain original registration .
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/rebuilt-vehicles

neilly · Feb 16, 2017

This is the website on the .gov site.

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/rebuilt-vehicles

Cheers

RSW · Feb 16, 2017

Thank you guys! I guess if I bought a Series 2a with various modified parts already then swapped the chassis and rebuilt it using the same modified parts that would be a risk? It seems you can mod your car using parts for years but the second you swap your chassis it creates an issue if it is not "as original"?
Cheers

SpringDon · Feb 17, 2017

The theory there is a risk but as look as it looks "series" i.e no coils, disks or defender front end, the chances of being caught are negligible. Mind there could be a problem if you had a serious accident.

The chassis is the vehicle identity but if kept the same chassis and changed absolutely everything else, it would still fail the points system.

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