Gogadget
Active Member
Hi dog-man
I have the icarsoft i930. It's a good entry level device does most things and free updates. Hawkeyes do more just depends on how far you want to go and how much you want to pay..there are plenty of threads on here with the pro,s one cons .. Mine also reads General obd codes off other makes of cars so not locked to one type of Landy
I have the icarsoft i930. It's a good entry level device does most things and free updates. Hawkeyes do more just depends on how far you want to go and how much you want to pay..there are plenty of threads on here with the pro,s one cons .. Mine also reads General obd codes off other makes of cars so not locked to one type of Landy
Skinny Mike
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I've got a Icarsoft LR2 which talks to all Freelanders and all landrover's from 1995ish.
Works really well, gives all fault codes from various ecu's. Only problem I've had with it is talking to the autobox, which is hit and miss. I paid £150 on an offer, it's usually £230.
The hawke eye is a better machine if you wish to program stuff. But costs quite a bit more.
Mike
Works really well, gives all fault codes from various ecu's. Only problem I've had with it is talking to the autobox, which is hit and miss. I paid £150 on an offer, it's usually £230.
The hawke eye is a better machine if you wish to program stuff. But costs quite a bit more.
Mike
May do some Land rover P38 petrols before 2001 engine only. But bet it does nothing on the P38 diesel.
Skinny Mike
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If you know the system name, NEMS, bosch, I can have a look at it, see if it's listed.
Mike
It won't do P38 diesels believe me. It will only do the engine on a P38 petrol. Think if you look at the bumpff for it, it is for petrols from 2001 and diesels from 2004. But as far as i am aware OBDII compliance is only for engines relating to emissions other manufacturers systems may not be covered.
Nanocom is far better than Hawkeye or Lynx.
Skinny Mike
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I have no idea about the P38 but it will do old petrol Freelanders. Plugged it into the sisters Y reg K series and it read that. Don't think we put an adaptor on either.
But anything pre 2000 is hit and miss.
Mike
Yep there are various OBDII code readers around that will read petrol engine data. I have a Proscan that does most petrols. And gives a bit of info.
Joe_H
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I too want a diagnostic tool for my FL 1 and have been perusing and emailing the various suppliers (I only know of 3!) Haykeye, Icarsoft and Lynx.
One of the issues with the cheaper units is the lack of actuator testing. (I specifically want to be able to test all actuators on my Wabco ABS unit)
I wanted a unit for the FL 1 and none of the iCarsoft products perform actuator testing (according to their info)
The Haykeye looks good and has a full feature set, but personally - I am tending towards the Lynx unit.
I much prefer to be able to use a laptop screen for logging as opposed to some tiny screen on the unit.
The Lynx is related to the original T4 ("Lynx is powered by Omitec who build the T4 – Official Land Rover diagnostics tool")
Hopefully I will have one in my toolbox soon - £215 + VAT from Island 4X4. - SINGLE VEHICLE TYPE
Joe
One of the issues with the cheaper units is the lack of actuator testing. (I specifically want to be able to test all actuators on my Wabco ABS unit)
I wanted a unit for the FL 1 and none of the iCarsoft products perform actuator testing (according to their info)
The Haykeye looks good and has a full feature set, but personally - I am tending towards the Lynx unit.
I much prefer to be able to use a laptop screen for logging as opposed to some tiny screen on the unit.
The Lynx is related to the original T4 ("Lynx is powered by Omitec who build the T4 – Official Land Rover diagnostics tool")
Hopefully I will have one in my toolbox soon - £215 + VAT from Island 4X4. - SINGLE VEHICLE TYPE
Joe
Nodge68
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I wouldn't buy the I930 again as it's very limited on what it can do. When I had my Discovery 3, I had a Gap Diagnostics IID multi function tool. It was awesome in every way, but sadly it doesn't cover the Freelander's mostly non-CAN coms links.
You'll have to let me know what the Lynx is like as I could do with being able to have full functionality to the Ipack and CCU modules.
Joe_H
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I emailed Icarsoft directly - the manufacturers - a few months back - their basic answer was short and sweet - "We do not recommend the Icarsoft products for the Freelander 1 <2001 models" (Not that yours may be in this catagory)
And, as you say, it has issues with various individual units above and beyond. I still think it is good value overall, but personally I would rather pay more and get something that will stay with the vehicle. - I am nearly 60 now, and I honestly expect my FL to last as long as I do - it is in truly mint condition although I may not be lol
I can see no reason to change it in the next 10 - 20 years and consider it an investment. It certainly will never rust here
I told the bride - a Freelander is not just for Christmas - and she has her beloved - as new - 2009 Fiat Panda with less than 28k Km on the clock.
(Oh, and my shed full of Freelander major parts that will probably never be needed - ho hum
)
Joe_H
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Hiya Nodge,
Check here mate
Regards
Joe
http://www.lynx-diagnostics.com/land-rover-coverage/freelander-1/
Also -
http://www.lynx-diagnostics.com/about-lynx-diagnostics/
And -
(Best price found so far)
http://www.island-4x4.co.uk/lynx-diagnostic-single-vehicle-home-user-da6430-p-26565.html
!! deliver here to Portugal - only 16 quid for shipping - total (From Island - )
"Best price is £215.00 plus VAT
Delivery is £16.00 plus VAT
Total is £277.20"
Nodge68
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There's no mention of Ipack or CCU programming with the Lynx though
Joe_H
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Hi Nodge, It mentions security programming, however, I have no idea of the level.
I would suspect - unless you pay for specific aspects of this from black box suppliers it may well be difficult to achieve in a reasonably priced unit.
Hope you get what you need mate
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edit - perhaps email them directly ?
Also, I must confess - I do not really understand what you want to achieve ? - perhaps you could explain so I have a better understanding and I can then refer to my notes from the various suppliers ?>
Thanks Nodge
Joe
I would suspect - unless you pay for specific aspects of this from black box suppliers it may well be difficult to achieve in a reasonably priced unit.
Hope you get what you need mate
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edit - perhaps email them directly ?
Also, I must confess - I do not really understand what you want to achieve ? - perhaps you could explain so I have a better understanding and I can then refer to my notes from the various suppliers ?>
Thanks Nodge
Joe
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Nodge68
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I want to add the outside temperature on the LCD and make the locking SPE too, I know that the Hawkeye can do the latter. Both can also be done using T4. Luckily there's a chap with T4 who can do it, unlikely he's 140 Miles from me.
Skinny Mike
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The Icarsoft LR2 will tell me the tcm (autobox ecu) is not present, but will then happily read solenoid values, pressure, etc, but not the fault codes?
So it's talking to the tcm, but not pulling codes. Very perplexing
I haven't plugged it back in since I sorted the electrics out. I'm currently at the stage of 'it's working, so don't touch it'. But I'll plug it back in at some point when I'm feeling brave again.
Mike
So it's talking to the tcm, but not pulling codes. Very perplexing
I haven't plugged it back in since I sorted the electrics out. I'm currently at the stage of 'it's working, so don't touch it'. But I'll plug it back in at some point when I'm feeling brave again.
Mike
Joe_H
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AH. now I understand where you are coming from Nodge. I do not know the LR terms, but on Fiat / Lancia / Alfa - I have the complete diagnostics and setup - including even odometer programming. - This also allows - what is classed in that software as - 'PROXY' setup - ie - you can add or remove features that are present - but - may be disabled due to model type.
The Odometer unit is an individual unit (and NO - not used for cheating !!!)- all the proxy setup and alignment are covered in MultiECU for Fiat / Alfa / Lancia - I use a CantieCar interface / module. I know of nothing in a sensible price range that offers what you need.
For the fiat etc the Complete gig is under 200 quid and covers everything - it is two units to cover all things.
Shame LR do not offer such a thing at a such a price.!
When we got our first 'Panda' about 4 years ago - I bought the complete suite - It has paid for itself over and over again ! - no question about that.
Sorry I cannot advise on the same sort of modules for the LR my friend.
Joe
