Pikey
Dummy Ejection Facilitator..
Which is what I've been saying all along..
Hippo
Lord Hippo
The issue raised above about tractors and large trailers etc (regardless of intricate detail etc) when you can’t tow much with a car etc… tractor drivers were allowed to do this as it was expected that they would only complete small trips on road, between fields and farm etc. With the vast majority of their driving being off the roads. Hence the grey area in comparison to cars and trailers.
Another factor is, tractors are limited to 20mph or 25mph. If you exceed his, eg JCB Fastrac, Unimog, etc then you need C+E licence and a whole bunch of other regulations need to be adhered to.
Ian Griffiths
New Member
I didn't get to test this out because the guy didn't answer my calls about buying that trailer. Still watching the thread with interest, it's been useful.
G-man
BBQ king
i think there is a ruling regarding the use of red diesel on the road outside a distance from your home farm, i.e. red can only be used when going from field to field and not hauling to market, as hauling to market is no longer farmwork its haulage
Pikey
Dummy Ejection Facilitator..
Yep As I said earlier within 1mile of the farm is ok any more is illegal
The 1 mile limit is for limited use vehicles (ie cars and vans which have been reregistered as such), not tractors. Tractors and other proper ag machinery don't have a mileage limit based on distance from base, but must be doing ag work. But you'd need to satisfy the exemptions from requiring an operator's licence, which are a slightly different set of rules and exemptions than the red diesel in ag vehicles. Put simply, there's 6 different sets of regulations which you need to be aware of, and stay within, to operate vehicles:
- Driver (licence)
- Vehicle type approval and construction & use
- Tow bar coupling (as applies to 1998-on cars and vans)
- Trailer construction & use
- Operator licence regulations/exemptions
- HMRC tax and duty exemptions
28mph
As for a fastrac it's still classed as an agricultural vehicle and I'm not aware of any extra entitlements required on your licence to drive one.
Lads younger than me on other farms drove them no prob.
Pikey
Dummy Ejection Facilitator..
Yes I was on about Big- P's comment on his boss driving to a 2nd farm and G spots comment about towing stock to market etc. both would be limited to within 1 mile of the farm as they aren't counted as agricultural work.
I don't know what Big P's boss was going to do at the 2nd farm, but I suspect its ag-related. Towing (your own) stock to market is DEFINITELY ag-related! Its not a complex test. Someone used a tractor towing a low loader to transport a JCB digger. They tried to do him for haulage, instead of ag exemption. In court, the farmer won because the digger was going to be used to clear ditches on the farmland, etc, ie ag-related.
28mph
As for a fastrac it's still classed as an agricultural vehicle and I'm not aware of any extra entitlements required on your licence to drive one.
Lads younger than me on other farms drove them no prob.
What year Fastrac and what class of type approval did it have? After 2005, things are much simpler because there is a T5 type approval category which is fast tractor. Before then, Fastracs were type approved to truck regulations (ABS, suspension, front hinging doors, mechanical steering, etc etc) but also met tractor requirements. The operator had to choose whether to operate it as a tractor (including meeting the 40kph speed limit) or a commercial vehicle (including driver licensed as such, operator licence, etc etc). It was widely misused at the time and police basically turned a blind eye, because they prefer a fast tractor to go fast and not hold up traffic, than slow. Even they didn't understand the rules properly! Things are now a big simpler for 2005 on Fastracs.
Year - Before 2002
As for type approval, pass. We never had one but a couple of neighbouring farms had one. As did one of the local contractors.
A fastrac is about the only tractor I never actually got behind the wheel of.
Boss only ever went to other farms in his Hilux for agri related work. He didn't abuse it by going to the shops in it.
I'm fairly sure the distance you're allowed to travel is more than 1 mile too.
But to be honest, which farm worker goes and does the full tractor test? I've never even heard of one.
Anyway, I'm orf to me ****in' chariot.
16 year olds are the ones who would do a tractor test (at age 16), then they're licensed for driving on the roads in a tractor. There's no point sitting the test if you're 17 or over, you may as well sit the car driving test since passing this also adds category F (tractors) to your licence, as well as a few others.
The distance limit for 'limited use' reregistered van/car, might have been greater in years gone by but currently its 1.5km.
That's what I thought but G Spot says otherwise.
Any chance that could also be different in Scotland?
nick2303
Well-Known Member
just had a word wiv me dad... theres been loads of stuff in the caravan club mag on towing limits.. aparently when you get to a certain age you lose the grandfather rights of pre 1997 driving licence.. and your towing limit is reduced to that of having passed your test after 1997.. lots of old folk wiv 4x4 are towing their caravans illegally..
or so it sez in cc mag...
or so it sez in cc mag...
Karlos28
Well-Known Member
my mate did it, luckily paid for by work (£500).. he said it was the biggest ball ache load of **** ever. its as youd imagine, rediculously by the book. if you toutch the hitch with your tow ball its an instant fail and such like..
definately worth doing if you licence is worth more than £500 to you
definately worth doing if you licence is worth more than £500 to you
