I believe the top spec HSE badge came along with the facelift. Before the facelift the top spec was badged as an ES.
The facelift is better looking, however the interior trim is much lower quality than the post facelift version. The facelift suffers from creaks, squeaks and rattles that the early models didn't.
The dash cowling and door handles feel particularly low rent compared to the earlier models, and toy like compared to the much later FL2.
 
V6 Jatco, cut down the bellhousing a bit, add on an adapter plate.
Before I do that, I will need to swap the MEMS3 ECU for a Rover 75 auto one, and get it talking to a Jatco ECU.
If the Jatco ECU picks up the engine revs and throttle position from the MEMS3 then I proceed to the next stage.
If I can't get it to work then it stays manual and SWMBO will just have to learn to drive it as a manual 1.8
 
I have to see if I can use a Rover 75 Turbo ECU when there is no turbo. Probably SAWS Tuning can help me with that.
 
New toy !
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New problems !
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yeah, both sides :-(
 
My impression of driving it is that it seems plenty powerful enough. I think that it'll manage an auto box just fine. The clutch biting point is lower than our TD4.
 
The price was okay and apart from a failed tailgate handle and those sills it's a lovely car.
The spec is perfect, all the toys but no sunroof.
Anyway I have a good welding machine of my own.
 
pscan.eu said:
The price was okay and apart from a failed tailgate handle and those sills it's a lovely car.
The spec is perfect, all the toys but no sunroof.
Anyway I have a good welding machine of my own.
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No sun roof is a big issue - nothing to hold the roof lining up when it perrishes :D
 
Nice new project car Philip! Looks like the welder will be getting some use though.

why can’t you keep the existing MEMS3 ECU and get SAWS to do a custom map to interface with the Jatco ECU?
 
rob_bell said:
Nice new project car Philip! Looks like the welder will be getting some use though.

why can’t you keep the existing MEMS3 ECU and get SAWS to do a custom map to interface with the Jatco ECU?
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It depends whether a non auto MEMS has the necessary electronics to drive the Jatco ECU or not. I will have to figure that out.
 
pscan.eu said:
A steptronic won't mate up with the Freelander IRD. It has to be a Jatco.
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I think what Rob is saying, is the TCM for the Steptronic or Jatco will use the same data from the ECM to know what to do. This being the case, the engine RPM and load data should already be in the CAN data stream, which the box TCM can use to make the correct gear selections.
Something that I've spotted in the past. When doing a full diagnostic read on the 1.8k FL1, sometimes it flags a code for missing data from TCM, which suggests that sometimes the ECM is already expecting the TCM to be present, even though the 1.8 FL1 never had an auto from the factory.
 
Yes - and of course the MEMS for the steptronic has more output channels.

I think I have the MEMS part number codes somewhere…
 
I'm going to try a manual Rover 75 ECU in the Freelander 1.8 whilst it's still a manual and see if I can get it to work. Immo disable is getting quite easy to do on these ECUs now. I went through the circuit diagrams and the differences are:-
No PAS load sensor on the Freelander.
Idle control valve seems the same but four pins connected on Freelander but only three on the R75.
Fan control and AC seems different, so I probably just won't connect them initially.
It's unclear to me whether the manual Freelander has the old R25/45/MGF type crank sensor pattern (it's a PG1 after all) or a Rover 75 style one.
 
All this stuff about ECU circuit diagrams and capturing CAN messages on the EV threads.

Car electronics is a bit more complex than changing the points these days :D
 
Can anyone tell me whether FL1 facelift clusters are coded to each individual car? and also has anyone ever put a V6 cluster in a 1.8 or viceversa?
 
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