It does look like a Britpart spare catalogue doesn't it ....
https://www.munro-ev.com/
https://www.munro-ev.com/
+1 - we looked at the Mitsi PHEV for business use - about as cheap as it is possible to get for a business - BUT the towing limit was only 1500Kg - and the efficiency dropped through the floor... so we didn't bother..
Of course you can tow with one 
E~FENDER
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There are actually two options for this already;
1- Ultimate Cell; reduces your tailpipe emissions and increases your fuel consumption. My brother-in-law had this fitted to his Series and says it is a noticeable improvement for limited cost. He lives in Lisbon but there might to stockists in the UK; https://www.ultimatecell.pt/en/car-device/
2- Ulemco; Liverpool Uni have done a number of H2 dual fuel conversions for medium sized diesel vehicles already. These are larger conversions so more expensive. UK based; https://ulemco.com/hydrogen-dual-fuel/
Nodge68
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Presumably you know nothing of vehicle battery technology and how terrible the 3.0L TDV6 LR engine is.
Western Slope Rover
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Will a battery last 28 years? 'Cause that's how old my RRC is and the engine is still going. What is the cost of battery replacement compared to a new lump?
I know little about battery tech for leccy vehicles and as I never owned a TDV6 I can't say I know how terrible they are. But I do know how good my 2.2 Puma engine is, 10 years old and never ever fails to start in half a spin of the starter. But I will add, I was responding to the original poster's question in the title, which asked for our thoughts
. And that's wot I did, typed in my thoughts.
Nodge68
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A battery doesn't just stop working. They slowly loose capacity over charge cycles. Battery technology is now so good they are designed to last the life of the vehicle.
Nothing that LR now make will last 28 years, half that is going to be more likely, and a battery will last that long.
Nodge68
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An EV battery will outlast the TDV6 engine by long way.
EV batteries are designed to last the life of the vehicle and so good that they will.
Nodge68
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But I do know how good my 2.2 Puma engine is, 10 years old and never ever fails to start in half a spin of the starter. But I will add, I was responding to the original poster's question in the title, which asked for our thoughts
The Puma is a good engine.
Nothing wrong with free speech.
E~FENDER
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Agree. Plenty of examples of Tesla early adopters doing 250k miles ... and even a chap from Germany with over 1million EV miles. He has had two replacement battery packs and eight motors (a bit like that "are you being served sketch" but that is still a lot of charge and discharge cycles for each battery pack.
https://insideevs.com/news/592845/tesla-model-s-passes-1-million-miles/
According to Tesla, each battery is 'limited' to 1,500 cycles which is somewhere between 300k-500k miles or 22-37 years depending on use.
https://ev-lectron.com/blogs/blog/how-long-does-a-tesla-battery-last
Worth noting too that the used batteries are still useful and can be used for home battery storage where discharge and charge cycles are less erratic. Renault have this system for their old Zoe batteries.
https://www.renaultgroup.com/en/new...-lifecycle-of-its-electric-vehicle-batteries/
Nodge68
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Good to see an answer from someone who actually knows what they are talking about.
E~FENDER
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Rarely happensGood to see an answer from someone who actually knows what they are talking about.
so I'll take it. I'll be honest, I may have been doing more research than is probably healthy. You may be interested in my 'Belated Hello' post over in the intros section.
Nodge68
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I did. I see you have some advocates of fossilganda on there too.
I don't get why apparently intelligent people are so easily suckered by the fossil fuel industry, when a menial amount of proper research proves how wrong they are.
I wish you all the best.
Oh and there's a couple Freelander owners on the Freelander forum which are doing DIY EV conversions on their Freelanders.
Ian M in France
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I think the life of the vehicle is determined by the life of the battery
Nodge68
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Which makes it the same as the life of a discovery 3 or 4 then.
Actually not true, as there's a growing number company's that specialise in EV battery refurbishment.
I don't get the issue. It a battery, not a bloody space shuttle.
E~FENDER
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Yeah, the Fossil Fuel industry (like the smoking lobby) has a wide reach through their misinformation campaign. I did a report 25 years ago on electric vehicles and while the technology has moved on the rhetoric has intensified!I did. I see you have some advocates of fossilganda on there too.
I don't get why apparently intelligent people are so easily suckered by the fossil fuel industry, when a menial amount of proper research proves how wrong they are.
E~FENDER
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Great, thanks, I'll take a look for those threads
GrumpyGel
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Fookin expensive Christmas lights.
