Judged off the issues "The Fast Lane" on YT have had, I think even scotch locks might struggle to make them worse :eek: ...:rolleyes:



:D

Well, l've got one of the new fangled "Defenders" and it was delivered with no faults, and nothing has gone wrong in the first months of ownership

It actually feels very well made.
l'm not saying it's an authentic replacement for the classic Defender, but it is a good vehicle.

See my new Defender running reports on this forum.
of it develops any faults l'll report on here and you can have a laugh at my expense and say "l told you so..."

Mine is a 3.0 diesel and it's very strong, 250bhp and 570Nm torque at 1700rpm. lt would be great with a manual transmission but it's only available as an auto.
 
Well, l've got one of the new fangled "Defenders" and it was delivered with no faults, and nothing has gone wrong in the first months of ownership

It actually feels very well made.
l'm not saying it's an authentic replacement for the classic Defender, but it is a good vehicle.

See my new Defender running reports on this forum.
of it develops any faults l'll report on here and you can have a laugh at my expense and say "l told you so..."

Mine is a 3.0 diesel and it's very strong, 250bhp and 570Nm torque at 1700rpm. lt would be great with a manual transmission but it's only available as an auto.

Your choice of vehicle is exactly that - your choice :) . I'm pretty sure I have commented in your thread about it..

I could have more or less any new vehicle, and put it through my business too - but previous experience of "new" stuff has been so bad, that I won't do it..

When I see the likes of the TFL vid, it just reinforces my desire to stay away from such issues - like the ni$$an we had which fell in half, and ni$$an gave not one single damn - in much the same way as the FFRR we had with serious issues, and LR had essentially the same attitude...

There's an American saying - "YMMV" - your mileage may vary - which applies here - I sincerely hope you have a better experience than we did..:)

Modern "stuff" is not for us.. :)
 
Well, l've got one of the new fangled "Defenders" and it was delivered with no faults, and nothing has gone wrong in the first months of ownership

It actually feels very well made.
l'm not saying it's an authentic replacement for the classic Defender, but it is a good vehicle.

See my new Defender running reports on this forum.
of it develops any faults l'll report on here and you can have a laugh at my expense and say "l told you so..."

Mine is a 3.0 diesel and it's very strong, 250bhp and 570Nm torque at 1700rpm. lt would be great with a manual transmission but it's only available as an auto.
Ah, those first months. The salad days for a Land Rover.
If it's a good one.
 
LR have not the best reputation over the years! As usual though, you only hear about the bad ones. I've got loads of customers with new Defenders, Evoque, Range Rovers etc and they've all been fine.
The vast majority of new Defender owners on the forum have no issues, in the "faults" section there's the usual issues that you find on most forums.
Often it's the dealers inability to fix issues that occur, not confined to Land Rover products

l remember when the Defender TD5 came out there were similar comments
Also the Defender "Puma" got a lot of flak from die hard Land Rover fans. Ford Transit engine....sacrilege!!
But they've proved to be okay and are now seen as the penultimate "classic" Defender
 
LR have not the best reputation over the years! As usual though, you only hear about the bad ones. I've got loads of customers with new Defenders, Evoque, Range Rovers etc and they've all been fine.
The vast majority of new Defender owners on the forum have no issues, in the "faults" section there's the usual issues that you find on most forums.
Often it's the dealers inability to fix issues that occur, not confined to Land Rover products

l remember when the Defender TD5 came out there were similar comments
Also the Defender "Puma" got a lot of flak from die hard Land Rover fans. Ford Transit engine....sacrilege!!
But they've proved to be okay and are now seen as the penultimate "classic" Defender

Cool. I hope you have zero problems with your Defender, genuinely :).

The issue for me is that they are too complicated for the climate where we live, and for the use it would get - I know this from bitter experience, sadly, which I wouldn't really wish on anyone.. especially anyone on here :)
 
Well, l've got one of the new fangled "Defenders" and it was delivered with no faults, and nothing has gone wrong in the first months of ownership

It actually feels very well made.
l'm not saying it's an authentic replacement for the classic Defender, but it is a good vehicle.

See my new Defender running reports on this forum.
of it develops any faults l'll report on here and you can have a laugh at my expense and say "l told you so..."

Mine is a 3.0 diesel and it's very strong, 250bhp and 570Nm torque at 1700rpm. lt would be great with a manual transmission but it's only available as an auto.
Can you sell it and go get a Grenadier please?
We could do with an intel report on that when you get chance.
Cheers.
 
l had a Grenadier order in, but had to cancel it because l needed delivery by March 2023, and as at November 2022 (when the Defender turned up) there was no news on delivery dates.

l basically ordered a Defender and a Grenadier early last year, because both vehicle orders could be cancelled without penalty.

The Grenadier was within £500 of what l paid for the Defender. Also it was available with a petrol engine which l preferred over diesel.

There's still no definite news on Grenadier delivery

To take advantage of a govt tax rebate scheme it needed to be registered by March 2023.
 
l had a Grenadier order in, but had to cancel it because l needed delivery by March 2023, and as at November 2022 (when the Defender turned up) there was no news on delivery dates.

l basically ordered a Defender and a Grenadier early last year, because both vehicle orders could be cancelled without penalty.

The Grenadier was within £500 of what l paid for the Defender. Also it was available with a petrol engine which l preferred over diesel.

There's still no definite news on Grenadier delivery

To take advantage of a govt tax rebate scheme it needed to be registered by March 2023.
Not a fan of the Grenadier - and really not a fan of the owner. Did you see the launch of the Munro up here in Edinburgh recently. Looks like a cobble together of Britpart bits and somewhat like the Tesla 'whateveritscalled' truck; https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/electric/munro/
 

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