Stu63

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An old P38, I was thinking about a new one then somebody said rebuild it. I was looking at them at about £15 but are they worth it, has anybody did it or should I just get a new one.
 
Go for the kit what do you have to lose for 15quid;)
Lots do it and have no issues, it will keep you busy for half a day so crack on.
Not sure if all kits are created equal. have you looked at X8R, have had stuff from them for my L322 compressor and they are good. might be a little more than the 1s you are looking at but will be of good quality, make sure you get the kit with the liner.

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I have just rebuilt mine.....Twice. The first time i got a kit from Island 4x4 complete with liner. The new ring wore out in less than a week. Don't know if it was a faulty batch or not as Island stuff is usually pretty good.
got another kit from X8R and the top rubber o ring seems to sit better and so far all is good and the compressor works fine. Even with the air mail to Russia and 2 kits later its still cheaper than a complete unit.
 
Thanks guys I just thought if i got a new one it's guaranteed for 2 years (Mane/Maine) Dunlop is a year but rebuilding it's a chance i take and if it's still not right it's cash that could have been put towards a new one.

Having said that, if I went for the kit from X8R what one as there's 4 different types.
 
I bought the one with the all the gaskets, O rings piston ring and liner.
Although from this kit as i had a previous one just used the piston ring, Liner and top large O ring. i now have spare filters and other gaskets.
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Thanks guys I just thought if i got a new one it's guaranteed for 2 years (Mane/Maine) Dunlop is a year but rebuilding it's a chance i take and if it's still not right it's cash that could have been put towards a new one.

Having said that, if I went for the kit from X8R what one as there's 4 different types.
Dunlop are crap.ask @Henry_b ;)
 
I rebuilt mine must be nearly 10 years ago and about to re do it so the last well, especially if there are no leaks in the system, if the pump is feeding leaks they will over work and wear out in short order.
 
Ok, I'm tempted with the kit, I just spoke to X8R and I seemingly would need 0022 £22 (I don't use all this ??.99 crap) for a Dunlop compressor.
I know what you're saying about leaks but I guess if I took a chance and was down again a hours later or next day ect then it'll either be the back bags or a break/ split on a pipe somewhere. I might take the chance on it.
 
Thanks guys I just thought if i got a new one it's guaranteed for 2 years (Mane/Maine) Dunlop is a year but rebuilding it's a chance i take and if it's still not right it's cash that could have been put towards a new one.

Having said that, if I went for the kit from X8R what one as there's 4 different types.
PLEASE!

For your wallets sake don't buy DUNLOP!!!

Believe it or not Dunlop isn't the OE supplier for EAS compressors the original P38 compressor is a slightly modified version of the thomas 315 compressor.

After some investigation into mine It appeared that Dunlop in their wisdom used brass for the flywheel/weight on the compressor conrod.
Mine rattled like a bastard and the piston ring fell apart + it seemed to rattle apart

I think I've worked out what caused the failure on mine IMO it was a loose grub screw which caused the motor to spin, catch it, get off balance etc. Or whether it happened from the other side. The armature has a couple of big lumps of resin on it which I've never seem in an OEM one before whether it was to try and balance it from the factory who knows - but if it's actually caused it to run off balance, then it will have work the front bearing which there is some play in and the possibly vibrated the grub screw loose, and gouged out the brass conrod which explained the swarf and the noise prior to failure!

Here are some pics of my "new" compressor.

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dnINqXCl.jpg


And the same compressor 3 weeks later. :mad::confused:

98lYkDkl.jpg

kirGvlol.jpg

9FGxiXjl.jpg


The armature was also scraping against the magnets in the body of the motor.

It was a right mess.

I sent it back to Rimmers and got a refund that was a £200 mistake!

To get the EAS working properly I replaced it with a rebuilt unit from a chap on ebay "Original Landy Air" a top chap who supplied a fully rebuilt compressor for around £88 IIRC :cool:

Another little thing often missed is the orientation of the washers the compressor sits on..

From factory the P38 had Concave washers, these are often lost/misplaced or more often than not put in upside down!

This caused the Compressor to vibrate and it becomes audible from inside the cab, which in turn triggers "EAS paranoia" which i'm convinced is come kind of mental condition! ;)

My washers were flat, a good smack with a ball pean fixed that..

The right orientation is...

Top washer goes CONCAVE SIDE UP

Bottom washer goes CONCAVE SIDE DOWN

What is also important is the 8mm nuts that secure the compressor only need to be just above hand tight, too tight end it'll make a noise... :rolleyes::D

Yes i'm sad... :cool::confused:

LOL :D

I should add the reason I replaced the original OE compressor with a Dunlop one was due to the original burning out due to a pretty severe leak I had on the storage side of the EAS system, the diaphragm was completely blown so the compressor was working constantly..

It was rebuilt in 2010 by the PO and lasted until the thick end of 2019 so not bad..
 
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PLEASE!

For your wallets sake don't buy DUNLOP!!!

Believe it or not Dunlop isn't the OE supplier for EAS compressors the original P38 compressor is a slightly modified version of the thomas 315 compressor.

After some investigation into mine It appeared that Dunlop in their wisdom used brass for the flywheel/weight on the compressor conrod.
Mine rattled like a bastard and the piston ring fell apart + it seemed to rattle apart

I think I've worked out what caused the failure on mine IMO it was a loose grub screw which caused the motor to spin, catch it, get off balance etc. Or whether it happened from the other side. The armature has a couple of big lumps of resin on it which I've never seem in an OEM one before whether it was to try and balance it from the factory who knows - but if it's actually caused it to run off balance, then it will have work the front bearing which there is some play in and the possibly vibrated the grub screw loose, and gouged out the brass conrod which explained the swarf and the noise prior to failure!

Here are some pics of my "new" compressor.

Q103xMil.jpg

dnINqXCl.jpg


And the same compressor 3 weeks later. :mad::confused:

98lYkDkl.jpg

kirGvlol.jpg

9FGxiXjl.jpg


The armature was also scraping against the magnets in the body of the motor.

It was a right mess.

I sent it back to Rimmers and got a refund that was a £200 mistake!

To get the EAS working properly I replaced it with a rebuilt unit from a chap on ebay "Original Landy Air" a top chap who supplied a fully rebuilt compressor for around £88 IIRC :cool:

Another little thing often missed is the orientation of the washers the compressor sits on..

From factory the P38 had Concave washers, these are often lost/misplaced or more often than not put in upside down!

This caused the Compressor to vibrate and it becomes audible from inside the cab, which in turn triggers "EAS paranoia" which i'm convinced is come kind of mental condition! ;)

My washers were flat, a good smack with a ball pean fixed that..

The right orientation is...

Top washer goes CONCAVE SIDE UP

Bottom washer goes CONCAVE SIDE DOWN

What is also important is the 8mm nuts that secure the compressor only need to be just above hand tight, too tight end it'll make a noise... :rolleyes::D

Yes i'm sad... :cool::confused:

LOL :D
Cant find him, you have a link?
 

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