yes here is a link...........http://www.landrover.co.uk/ownership/euro-6-emissions-standards.html
Nothing wrong with adblue systems. Millions of vehicles and industrial/agriculture vehicles use that system.
FlyingPete
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For most users it's a service item unless you do some obscure drive cycles all the time. Just a case of topping it up every oil change. Technologically I think it's a bit of a bodge but they've been in use on trucks for years and are reliable enough.
A diesel engine is a diesel engine. Them trucks and tractors are better serviced than cars
There is nothing wrong with that stuff, people are running and saying its no good bla bla bla, it is the change they don't like. If you use a engine that does not get to operating temps, your words never levels the village, then take the bus or walk. as any engine that never gets to temp will have a premature death
Discokids
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I almost agree, except that I've run a small engined deisel now for nearly 5 years and 60k and only suffered a blown turbo caused by leaking oil line and a gummy egr valve which I clean out every 3 months. Most journeys were my partner taking kids to school and going shopping etc with the odd holiday thrown in. If I had been running a car with adblue aswell think how many times I would have had to top it up, not to mention clean/replace the dpf, which costs a fortune. My engine (1.5 dci renault) is fine by the way, starts instantly and purrs like a kitten. It depends on the what the op wants to use his car for I suppose.
Not all euro 6 diesels have a dpf
Discokids
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Indeed, and adblue was around long before euro 6 but that's not relevant either. It's still one more thing on the car that will one day give trouble, just like cat's, egr's and dpf's. I'm guessing it probably doesn't matter to the buyers of new cars though, it's when they're 10 years old and 5th hand that the problems come to light.
Thanks for all the info. I suppose a better idea would be to buy a very low mileage D4 without the Adblue tank. Quite frankly I am not that fussed what comes out of the exhaust and I have never met anybody who is. The one problem that might occur is problems in the exhaust system after 3 years or before, which in small diesel engines is an unknown.
In support of "clean air Netherlands" i turned up the fuel pump on the 200Tdi.
Rollin coal baby......
in all fairness, it's all a con, way back we used to gut cats on our V8s and the results were what? Oh yeah, increased power and economy.....
De-cat mid pipes for TD5s being sold daily still...... why? cats are past their best and are now causing more harm than good.
EGR valves, another clever idea that we bypass as it has a detrimental effect on the health and reliability of an ageing engine, it also does what? Oh yeah, helps improve power and economy.......
in all seriousness, my mate has a Merc bluemotion thing, it runs rough as guts when the adblue is empty, why? It is not an injected additive into the combustion cycle, its a post combustion exhaust gas additive, reason, ecu says "adblue empty" some clever s4!t said make them pay and wrote code in for poor rough running to scare you into going to Merc main dealer for fill up, money grabbing cnuts!,,
Rollin coal baby......
in all fairness, it's all a con, way back we used to gut cats on our V8s and the results were what? Oh yeah, increased power and economy.....
De-cat mid pipes for TD5s being sold daily still...... why? cats are past their best and are now causing more harm than good.
EGR valves, another clever idea that we bypass as it has a detrimental effect on the health and reliability of an ageing engine, it also does what? Oh yeah, helps improve power and economy.......
in all seriousness, my mate has a Merc bluemotion thing, it runs rough as guts when the adblue is empty, why? It is not an injected additive into the combustion cycle, its a post combustion exhaust gas additive, reason, ecu says "adblue empty" some clever s4!t said make them pay and wrote code in for poor rough running to scare you into going to Merc main dealer for fill up, money grabbing cnuts!,,
owl
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Adblue and EGR are both good things as NOx is a real problem in cities. The new egr systems take exhaust gas from after the cat and DPF so are cleaner. Land Rovers hold about 14 ltrs of Urea and when they run low a warning message comes up telling the driver that if the system isn't refilled in 600 mls (and counting down) the the car won't start.
Best thing to do is get a petrol.
Best thing to do is get a petrol.
FlyingPete
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dellboy1959
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two points here and that is Scania and a couple of other companies have developed an engine that equals the emmissions without the adblue system and secondly,if the adblue runs out you can simply just top up with tap water and it runs fine.in simple terms
all the adblue system does is inject pigs pi$$ into the exhaust to cool it down ffs so,your actually paying for pigs pi$$ which i find incredible lol.
all the adblue system does is inject pigs pi$$ into the exhaust to cool it down ffs so,your actually paying for pigs pi$$ which i find incredible lol.
urea not pig ****.......
