Well having missed out on the Shakespere weekend I've found myself trawling
for venues for October (bored silly - every one else is in bed asleep .. I
love shiftwork NOT)

Anyway would peeps like a trip to Anglesea if one could arrange same?

I understand this site is being created and developed at the moment, they
also run paintballing and have camping facilities (i.e. a field!)

Heres some vid produced by one of those involved who is a film maker as well
just to wet ones appitite!

http://www.ottadventures.co.uk/4x4angelsey.wmv

Is it just me or does every one need something other than the shows to look
forward too? Much as I love them they are getting very samey. I had
considered pulling a laning weekend together but given the confusion and
uncertainty over the lanes and the high probability of Wedging Morph in a
tight bush perhaphs best to explore something like this place.

Lee

On or around Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:52:15 +0100, "Lee_D"
<newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> enlightened us thusly:

>Well having missed out on the Shakespere weekend I've found myself trawling
>for venues for October (bored silly - every one else is in bed asleep .. I
>love shiftwork NOT)
>
>Anyway would peeps like a trip to Anglesea if one could arrange same?
>
>I understand this site is being created and developed at the moment, they
>also run paintballing and have camping facilities (i.e. a field!)
>
>Heres some vid produced by one of those involved who is a film maker as well
>just to wet ones appitite!
>
>http://www.ottadventures.co.uk/4x4angelsey.wmv
>
>Is it just me or does every one need something other than the shows to look
>forward too? Much as I love them they are getting very samey. I had
>considered pulling a laning weekend together but given the confusion and
>uncertainty over the lanes and the high probability of Wedging Morph in a
>tight bush perhaphs best to explore something like this place.

I could fancy Anglesea. It's also within striking distance of Pete's Eats,
which is just about the best cafe in the universe.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
Robert Frost (1874-1963) from Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening

On or around Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:52:15 +0100, "Lee_D"
<newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> enlightened us thusly:

>Well having missed out on the Shakespere weekend I've found myself trawling
>for venues for October (bored silly - every one else is in bed asleep .. I
>love shiftwork NOT)
>
>Anyway would peeps like a trip to Anglesea if one could arrange same?
>
>I understand this site is being created and developed at the moment, they
>also run paintballing and have camping facilities (i.e. a field!)
>
>Heres some vid produced by one of those involved who is a film maker as well
>just to wet ones appitite!
>
>http://www.ottadventures.co.uk/4x4angelsey.wmv
>

some of that looks rather like hard work, and more damaging than some of us
would like. Provided they have a good variety of more mundane stuff...
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
Robert Frost (1874-1963) from Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening

Austin Shackles <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:
>
> some of that looks rather like hard work, and more damaging than some
> of us would like. Provided they have a good variety of more mundane
> stuff...

Yeah that was what I thought but the Disco was apparently damaged prior to
the day. The group featured were actually at the request of the site owners
making lanes / tracks given it's a new venture and have been invited over
the next few weeks to attend with free entry on account of the work they are
putting in to opening up some tracks so while I'm assured no damage was
actually caused to any of the vehicles I'd certainly be keen to go and do a
reccy if they quote a fair price. I have emailed the organiser with a query
of the sort of thing the "group" look for and last years prices for the
weekend as an idea. May come to diddly but worth exploring none the less...
besides which it's a beautiful area also.

Lee

On 2006-04-27, Austin Shackles <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:

> some of that looks rather like hard work, and more damaging than some of us
> would like. Provided they have a good variety of more mundane stuff...

Personally I reckon somewhere ought to offer something other than the
totally bog standard mud, trees and troughs fare that makes up every
single off-road site I've ever been to. I'd like to see;

* trenches of differing widths to try crossing

* rocky paths of differing difficulty

* logs of various sizes fixed down to practice crossing

* erm..

* naked ladies

Any other ideas?

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 09:24:18 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:

>Personally I reckon somewhere ought to offer something other than the
>totally bog standard mud, trees and troughs fare that makes up every
>single off-road site I've ever been to. I'd like to see;
[..]
>Any other ideas?

Although I agree, it's hard work to build, for example, sand courses
partly due to the cost, partly as our sand isn't the same as Sahara
sand. I did some snow driving a few years ago which was actually far
easier than I expected (whacking great studs in the tyres helps).

I do get a bit tired of the same mud traps, fords and tree stages -
especially as most courses which involve woods are designed for
something a tad lower than a 101 ambi.

Rock stages are dangerous for 'play' sites and can rip tyres to shreds
very quickly.

Now, a nekid wimin stage could be good...


--
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of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005

In message <slrne50vti.ck6.news05@desktop.tarcus.org.uk>
Ian Rawlings <news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:

> On 2006-04-27, Austin Shackles <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:
>
> > some of that looks rather like hard work, and more damaging than some of us
> > would like. Provided they have a good variety of more mundane stuff...
>
> Personally I reckon somewhere ought to offer something other than the
> totally bog standard mud, trees and troughs fare that makes up every
> single off-road site I've ever been to. I'd like to see;
>
> * trenches of differing widths to try crossing
>
> * rocky paths of differing difficulty
>
> * logs of various sizes fixed down to practice crossing
>
> * erm..
>
> * naked ladies
>
> Any other ideas?
>

They won't allow anything too interesting - insurance and all that..

The best bet is to either join a club that has "parctice" days, or
get a group together and hire a site directly. Some land owners
will insist that you are a club or similar (insurance again), but
some won't. Avoid over-used sites (e.g. Biggin Quarry near Ashbourne)
as they are a bit dull.

Naked ladies is a tad more difficlt.... especially in winter.

Richard
--
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Ian Rawlings wrote:

> Any other ideas?
>

Big rocks.

Steve

On 2006-04-27, beamendsltd <beamendsltd@btconnect.com> wrote:

> The best bet is to either join a club that has "parctice" days, or
> get a group together and hire a site directly.

I belong to a local rights-of-way club who have access to some private
land from a friendly farmer, they did a day there recently but it was
the usual mud, trees, water and chap-with-new-V8-revving-nuts-off-and
blowing-the-diff affair. I was going to bring up the idea of trenches
etc at the next meeting.

> Naked ladies is a tad more difficlt.... especially in winter.

Naw, in the winter they're just grateful for something warm to drink.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

On 2006-04-27, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:

> Although I agree, it's hard work to build, for example, sand courses
> partly due to the cost, partly as our sand isn't the same as Sahara
> sand. I did some snow driving a few years ago which was actually far
> easier than I expected (whacking great studs in the tyres helps).

The good thing about rocky courses is that they don't tend to degrade
much, they tend to degrade the vehicles more than anything else. They
also stop the idiots who've just got their first off-roader and belt
around like a mad thing thinking it's a tank (as I did on my first
off-road site). Obviously you need to strike a balance between making
it too easy and too hard.

Trenches should be easy to make if you have access to a digger, my ROW
group hired one some time ago for a particularly troublesome
clearance. How you stop them caving in I'm not so sure. They don't
need to be deep either, I'd make them about 1-2 foot deep depending on
width and hard-bottomed to help with jacking.

Logs are logs, a few stakes in the ground to fix them down should be
easy enough. I reckon that'll be the first thing I'll put to my local
group given that there were logs lying around on the site we used
recently, just drag them out and fix them down somehow to make sure
they don't roll out when the V8 nutter puts his foot down (hopefully
he won't be there, or will be a bit calmer, next time).

> especially as most courses which involve woods are designed for
> something a tad lower than a 101 ambi.

That's one of the reasons I didn't consider getting a 101 or a mog,
can't green lane in them.

> Rock stages are dangerous for 'play' sites and can rip tyres to shreds
> very quickly.

Buyer beware. For a real rock stage, where you risk tipping the
vehicle, you'd need the right gear but for a pay 'n' play site it can
be much milder stuff. I've only ever been to one site that had about
10 axle-twisting potholes dug in a row, even something that simple is
fun but also almost always completely absent.

> Now, a nekid wimin stage could be good...

Drive between lines of 'em and see how far you get before having to
stop ;-)

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Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

On 2006-04-27, Steve Taylor <steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> wrote:

> Big rocks.

That was the idea behind different difficulty rocky paths, some can be
done in a stock landy and won't risk diff breaking or tipping, some
need spotting to protect the diffs, others need proper roll cage and
other truck mods to manage. Insurance probs might mean that the
harder one has to go. Tyre damage is usually a function of the right
foot so that's up to the driver.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

Lee_D wrote:

|| Well having missed out on the Shakespere weekend I've found myself
|| trawling for venues for October (bored silly - every one else is in
|| bed asleep .. I love shiftwork NOT)
||
|| Anyway would peeps like a trip to Anglesea if one could arrange same?
||
|| I understand this site is being created and developed at the moment,
|| they also run paintballing and have camping facilities (i.e. a
|| field!)
||
|| Heres some vid produced by one of those involved who is a film maker
|| as well just to wet ones appitite!
||
|| http://www.ottadventures.co.uk/4x4angelsey.wmv
||
|| Is it just me or does every one need something other than the shows
|| to look forward too? Much as I love them they are getting very
|| samey. I had considered pulling a laning weekend together but given
|| the confusion and uncertainty over the lanes and the high
|| probability of Wedging Morph in a tight bush perhaphs best to
|| explore something like this place.
||
|| Lee

Anglesey is good for us. (Sir Fôn for our Welsh readers.) Yeah, why not?

--
Rich
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Richard Brookman <newsboy@nowhere.com> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:

> Anglesey is good for us. (Sir Fôn for our Welsh readers.) Yeah, why
> not?

Also found a site at Ruthin, only 15 Acres mind but undulating woodland.
Exploring the camping options there. Chap who runs it also organises lane
trips at a cost with the option of B+B's too. Hoping to get some ball park
figures soon.

Lee