steve2286w
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This shows pipes connected nicely, not mine
jamesmartin
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on a 200 block though
steve2286w
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I’m not sure of the differences in block or turbo between the two
But the flow and return block connections look very similar on both engines on the 200tdi does it look like a more flexible pipe
Edit posted another pic of a 200tdi doh
No, the pipe looks the same, in terms of size and flexibility. The HP and return pipe connections look the same too. Turbo looks the same
The bracket, bottom left is not the same. JM knows the differences, not me I'm afraid 
ifloochies
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That picture looks like a 200Tdi with manifold and turbocharger from a 300Tdi - note the EGR port on the manifold. Not sure 200Tdi had emission controls that the 300 came out with.
Does to me too.
Alfieslandy
Active Member
When fitting a new turbo to mine I replaced the oil return pipe with an aftermarket one I had a similar problem. Lined old and new up and the replacement was definitely shorter think this was causing ( the slight ) kinking issue in my case for sure.
When you say you had a similar problem, did you start using oil or just notice the kink?
Did you put the old one back on?
Any chance that 300Tdi has come in yet James?
jamesmartin
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not yet was expecting it today
Alfieslandy
Active Member
just kinked slightly. I was paranoid at first but ok so far. Definitely shorter though
Great, I'm pleased yours is ok.just kinked slightly. I was paranoid at first but ok so far. Definitely shorter though
Have you seen the pictures of mine in post #1748 above. Was your as far out of alignment as mine?
Alfieslandy
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Yep looks pretty much the same experience i had. I am a little worried the torsion of the twisting and the heat from the oil could cause it to collapse further over time. Im guessing a genuine pipe may be the best ( expensive ) option. Other than that i would have to compare the original with the aftermarket one before i puchased. As i say the difference was obvious to the eye with mne when compared side to side. Just leaves the question how can they manage to get something as simple as this so wildly wrong???
It’s worrying for me that yours is working ok if it looked as bad as mine
I don’t know how many places make these parts, it could be that they’re all made by one factory in China and just get put in different bags, Britpart, Bearmach, Land Rover etc
Alfieslandy
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Ok sorry just nipped out and checked again its not as kinked as i remembered certainly not as kinked as yours.
She’s booked in for an MOT tomorrow so today I had to get the turbo and my home made return pipe back on. I’ve been held up changing the clutch on my sons Citroen C3, but that’s sorted now.
I was actually quite excited about this, pretty chuffed with myself and keen to see it not burning oil
Needless to say, but phrases like don’t count your chickens and pride before a fall apply to my efforts.
With the block union properly tightened this is what my perfectly measured return pipe looks like.
So I loosened the two bottom jubilee clips to get a better ‘fit’ in situ.
This is as good as I can get it.
I suppose it gives a clearer picture of what’s happening to the aftermarket pipes under the stainless braiding.
I can only think that the angle of the fitting from the turbo combined with the short distance there is between the ends of the two fittings means it’s impossible to bridge with any flexible pipe without it kinking. I’ve given up for now and have come indoors for an emergency mug of tea.
I was actually quite excited about this, pretty chuffed with myself and keen to see it not burning oil
Needless to say, but phrases like don’t count your chickens and pride before a fall apply to my efforts.
With the block union properly tightened this is what my perfectly measured return pipe looks like.
So I loosened the two bottom jubilee clips to get a better ‘fit’ in situ.
This is as good as I can get it.
I suppose it gives a clearer picture of what’s happening to the aftermarket pipes under the stainless braiding.
I can only think that the angle of the fitting from the turbo combined with the short distance there is between the ends of the two fittings means it’s impossible to bridge with any flexible pipe without it kinking. I’ve given up for now and have come indoors for an emergency mug of tea.
Alfieslandy
Active Member
Just been out and checked mine after finding a “spare “ new return in my shed. Turns out I did not fit the new pipe after all ( it’s been a while since I fitted the new turbo ). No kink at all on the original after scrutinising closely. The aftermarket one I have in my hand though is noticeably shorter. The braided section definitely shorter. I would seek out a genuine one if you can. Your experience is pretty much the same as mine regarding the aftermarket replacement that’s why I switched back to the original part on fitting.
Thank you for taking the time. Can you do me a big favour! Can you measure the length of the braided section on your original pipe? It’s bloody tight in there I know! Or maybe between the outer ends of the swaged covers.
