"rads" <radsxxunspamxx@davidradley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:47:52 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
> <brianhatton@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>> The good news is Rover V8 head gaskets are relatively cheap and easy to
>>> fix
>>> yourself! (Well, relative to a V6 Mondeo, anyway!)
>>
>>Try doing a Jag V12!!!
>>Badger.
>>
>
> I'll see your Jag V12 and raise you a quad cam 5.0 V8 Merc.
>
> <sulk>
> Poxy thing.

Ok, Rolls-Royce Griffon V12, or Napier Deltic! That's my final "bid" for the
reciprocating internal combustion engine, then I'm bust! Next, we move onto
gas turbines. LOL!
Badger.


 
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:07:03 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
<brianhatton@btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>"rads" <radsxxunspamxx@davidradley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:gsgfb1d4cnvjqeup05krbss4a8jf8jr7ef@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:47:52 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
>> <brianhatton@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> The good news is Rover V8 head gaskets are relatively cheap and easy to
>>>> fix
>>>> yourself! (Well, relative to a V6 Mondeo, anyway!)
>>>
>>>Try doing a Jag V12!!!
>>>Badger.
>>>
>>
>> I'll see your Jag V12 and raise you a quad cam 5.0 V8 Merc.
>>
>> <sulk>
>> Poxy thing.
>
>Ok, Rolls-Royce Griffon V12, or Napier Deltic! That's my final "bid" for the
>reciprocating internal combustion engine, then I'm bust! Next, we move onto
>gas turbines. LOL!
>Badger.
>

Fold

;-)

David
 
how about 42MW gt ?


"Badger" <brianhatton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "rads" <radsxxunspamxx@davidradley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:gsgfb1d4cnvjqeup05krbss4a8jf8jr7ef@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:47:52 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
>> <brianhatton@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> The good news is Rover V8 head gaskets are relatively cheap and easy to
>>>> fix
>>>> yourself! (Well, relative to a V6 Mondeo, anyway!)
>>>
>>>Try doing a Jag V12!!!
>>>Badger.
>>>
>>
>> I'll see your Jag V12 and raise you a quad cam 5.0 V8 Merc.
>>
>> <sulk>
>> Poxy thing.
>
> Ok, Rolls-Royce Griffon V12, or Napier Deltic! That's my final "bid" for
> the reciprocating internal combustion engine, then I'm bust! Next, we move
> onto gas turbines. LOL!
> Badger.
>


 

"Richard" <NO.SPAM@AT.NOSPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
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> how about 42MW gt ?

Ok, you've lost me, what is it?
Badger.


 
"Badger" <brianhatton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Try doing a Jag V12!!!
> Badger.

Try getting a Jag straight 6 out of Percy to do it :0( I cut off the front
crossmember , removed engine. Replaced engine with V8 and binned Jag lump...
ah well it was fun while it lasted.

Lee D
--

www.lrproject.com

Workshop photos from Landrover repairs
& other such tinkerings.
Home of Percy the Jag powered Landrover


 

"Lee_D" <newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> wrote in message
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> "Badger" <brianhatton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:d97h2o$p7j$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>
>> Try doing a Jag V12!!!
>> Badger.
>
> Try getting a Jag straight 6 out of Percy to do it :0( I cut off the
> front crossmember , removed engine. Replaced engine with V8 and binned Jag
> lump... ah well it was fun while it lasted.

I once fitted a rover SD1 2.6 into a series motor (complete with autobox and
home-brewed remote transfer, in a 109" chassis chopped down to 100"!!) and
that had bugger all access, you couldn't have removed the front pulley
without pulling the engine first, so I dread to think what the access was
like for an XK engine, had a few older jags over the years so I'm familiar
with the size/weight etc. Bet you it was awesome in a straight line though
Lee........?
Badger.


 
On or around Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:06:52 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
<brianhatton@btinternet.com> enlightened us thusly:

>>
>> Try getting a Jag straight 6 out of Percy to do it :0( I cut off the
>> front crossmember , removed engine. Replaced engine with V8 and binned Jag
>> lump... ah well it was fun while it lasted.
>
>I once fitted a rover SD1 2.6 into a series motor (complete with autobox and
>home-brewed remote transfer, in a 109" chassis chopped down to 100"!!) and
>that had bugger all access, you couldn't have removed the front pulley
>without pulling the engine first, so I dread to think what the access was
>like for an XK engine, had a few older jags over the years so I'm familiar
>with the size/weight etc. Bet you it was awesome in a straight line though

somewhere, if it's still extant, is an 86" series I with a 2.4 Jag in it,
which I had briefly. On that, the bonnet and wings had all been attached to
a frame and all lifted together, with the addition of a very strong prop to
hold it up, the access was quite good. On standard brakes, mind, so it was
highly dangerous on the road. Once (and only once) clocked 60 in second.

wonder where it went?

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
 
42mega watt Gas Turbine


"Badger" <brianhatton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Richard" <NO.SPAM@AT.NOSPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:qMWte.4109$y57.232@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> how about 42MW gt ?
>
> Ok, you've lost me, what is it?
> Badger.
>


 
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:12:47 GMT, Richard wrote:

> 42mega watt Gas Turbine

GT cheating stick to diesels 14 cyl Wartsila-Sulzer RTA96-C, 82MW or
there abouts. B-)

--
Cheers new5pam@howhill.com
Dave. pam is missing e-mail



 

"Richard" <NO.SPAM@AT.NOSPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
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> 42mega watt Gas Turbine

Right.
Rolls-Royce RB199 mk104 triple-spool, medium/high bypass axial flow
fly-by-wire turbojet with integral afterburner section, producing 41kN of
thrust dry, 73kN of thrust in combat setting with max afterburner. Don't ask
me what the hell it is in watts, I ain't got a clue and I can't be ar5ed
looking for a conversion at the moment! Someone wanna remind me how this
started.......? ;-)
Badger.


 
On or around Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:29:46 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
<new5pam@howhill.com> enlightened us thusly:

>On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:12:47 GMT, Richard wrote:
>
>> 42mega watt Gas Turbine
>
>GT cheating stick to diesels 14 cyl Wartsila-Sulzer RTA96-C, 82MW or
>there abouts. B-)

http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ccsshb/12cyl/

for example?

Mind, you have a different kind of problem, there. Access is dead easy, but
the parts require a crane.

Mind, the sort of scale project where the *spanners* require a crane is even
worse...

"At maximum economy the engine exceeds 50% thermal efficiency."

that's clever, mind. *and* it's a 2-stroke.

Imagine bleeding the injectors on that.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
 
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:30:56 +0100, Austin Shackles wrote:

>> GT cheating stick to diesels 14 cyl Wartsila-Sulzer RTA96-C, 82MW
>> or there abouts. B-)
>
> http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ccsshb/12cyl/
>
> for example?

Thats the one, I *like* **BIG** engineering. If I hadn't gone into
broadcasting I'd may well have gone into power distribution. 1000A at
500kV sort of stuff...

Wonder how big the "starter motor" is on that engine?

--
Cheers new5pam@howhill.com
Dave. pam is missing e-mail



 
Dave Liquorice wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:30:56 +0100, Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>
>>>GT cheating stick to diesels 14 cyl Wartsila-Sulzer RTA96-C, 82MW
>>>or there abouts. B-)
>>

> Wonder how big the "starter motor" is on that engine?

That's the nice thing - it hasn't got one.
 
In news:g7idnWDIXNlwDSPfRVnyuA@eclipse.net.uk,
Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> blithered:
> Dave Liquorice wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:30:56 +0100, Austin Shackles wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> GT cheating stick to diesels 14 cyl Wartsila-Sulzer RTA96-C, 82MW
>>>> or there abouts. B-)
>>>
>
>> Wonder how big the "starter motor" is on that engine?
>
> That's the nice thing - it hasn't got one.

Just bump start it?

--
"He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt her doing it."

If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!


 
On or around Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:26:50 +0100, "GbH"
<Geoff_Hannington@IEE.ORGasm> enlightened us thusly:

>In news:g7idnWDIXNlwDSPfRVnyuA@eclipse.net.uk,
>Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> blithered:
>> Dave Liquorice wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:30:56 +0100, Austin Shackles wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> GT cheating stick to diesels 14 cyl Wartsila-Sulzer RTA96-C, 82MW
>>>>> or there abouts. B-)
>>>>
>>
>>> Wonder how big the "starter motor" is on that engine?
>>
>> That's the nice thing - it hasn't got one.
>
>Just bump start it?

Send a bloke into one of the cylinders with a fag lighter.

Seriously, though... I imagine it's done with compressed air.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
 
On Sunday, in article
<42be9f0e$0$2028$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net>
Geoff_Hannington@IEE.ORGasm "GbH" wrote:

> In news:g7idnWDIXNlwDSPfRVnyuA@eclipse.net.uk,
> Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> blithered:
> > Dave Liquorice wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:30:56 +0100, Austin Shackles wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>> GT cheating stick to diesels 14 cyl Wartsila-Sulzer RTA96-C, 82MW
> >>>> or there abouts. B-)
> >>>
> >
> >> Wonder how big the "starter motor" is on that engine?
> >
> > That's the nice thing - it hasn't got one.
>
> Just bump start it?

Compressed-air starting is my guess, but I've maybe read a bit too much
about submarines. A shortage of compressed air was a problem -- you
needed it to surface and start the engines to recharge the batteries and
replenish to compressed air.

--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.

"I am Number Two," said Penfold. "You are Number Six."
 
In news:erftb1p95uhud1fm2hfvhe2scvj55rqk17@4ax.com,
Austin Shackles <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> blithered:
> On or around Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:26:50 +0100, "GbH"
> <Geoff_Hannington@IEE.ORGasm> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> In news:g7idnWDIXNlwDSPfRVnyuA@eclipse.net.uk,
>> Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> blithered:
>>> Dave Liquorice wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:30:56 +0100, Austin Shackles wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> GT cheating stick to diesels 14 cyl Wartsila-Sulzer RTA96-C, 82MW
>>>>>> or there abouts. B-)
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> Wonder how big the "starter motor" is on that engine?
>>>
>>> That's the nice thing - it hasn't got one.
>>
>> Just bump start it?
>
> Send a bloke into one of the cylinders with a fag lighter.
>
> Seriously, though... I imagine it's done with compressed air.

I recall in the dim and distant past see a Deisel road roller started with a
squib! Same sort of deal I guess.

--
"He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt her doing it."

If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!


 
On or around Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:07:33 +0100, "GbH"
<Geoff_Hannington@IEE.ORGasm> enlightened us thusly:
>
>I recall in the dim and distant past see a Deisel road roller started with a
>squib! Same sort of deal I guess.

cartridge start, I believe that's called. What was that film where they
crash the plane in the desert, and rebuild it into a smaller plane in order
to fly out again? That shows a cartridge start system.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
 

"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
news:pkutb1tgs362qpv5kl36ifgucaf9mvcvcv@4ax.com...
> On or around Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:07:33 +0100, "GbH"
> <Geoff_Hannington@IEE.ORGasm> enlightened us thusly:
> >
> >I recall in the dim and distant past see a Deisel road roller started
with a
> >squib! Same sort of deal I guess.
>
> cartridge start, I believe that's called. What was that film where they
> crash the plane in the desert, and rebuild it into a smaller plane in
order
> to fly out again? That shows a cartridge start system.

Flight of the phoenix or somthing



 
In news:pkutb1tgs362qpv5kl36ifgucaf9mvcvcv@4ax.com,
Austin Shackles <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> blithered:
> On or around Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:07:33 +0100, "GbH"
> <Geoff_Hannington@IEE.ORGasm> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>> I recall in the dim and distant past see a Deisel road roller
>> started with a squib! Same sort of deal I guess.
>
> cartridge start, I believe that's called. What was that film where
> they crash the plane in the desert, and rebuild it into a smaller
> plane in order to fly out again? That shows a cartridge start system.

Phlight of the Foenix 1

--
"He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt her doing it."

If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!


 
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