Defender1987 · Dec 19, 2014

If 220 hp is not realistic,
what is the highest rolling road output someone has reached ?

Doing a new 300tdi build with turner preformance head,
Will ad a vnt turbo, large IC an larger allu rad.

Will push it as long as EGT temp stays under safe limits

200tdi ayre · Dec 19, 2014

Id say 180 is your limit without stroking

Thor1950 · Dec 19, 2014

Defender1987 said:
If 220 hp is not realistic,
what is the highest rolling road output someone has reached ?

Doing a new 300tdi build with turner preformance head,
Will ad a vnt turbo, large IC an larger allu rad.

Will push it as long as EGT temp stays under safe limits

get a damn big inter cooler, a auxiliary engine oil cooler and a darn big radiator and a big exhaust

Defender1987 · Dec 19, 2014

Gonna do a rolling road test when setup is good.
I would be happy with 160 bhp .(safe setup)

tacr2man · Dec 20, 2014

Defender1987 said:
Gonna do a rolling road test when setup is good.
I would be happy with 160 bhp .(safe setup)

Safe for how long ? , torque is what you want to chase JMHO

aaronmorris · Dec 20, 2014

tacr2man said:
Safe for how long ? , torque is what you want to chase JMHO

+1, No point chasing silly power out of a tdi, because as above how long is it safe for?
Fit a proper engine :behindsofa:

Defender1987 · Dec 21, 2014

aaronmorris said:
+1, No point chasing silly power out of a tdi, because as above how long is it safe for?
Fit a proper engine :behindsofa:

Time wil tel i think

,

But when you keep your egt at a safe limit ,
en boost level reasonable, this would be just fine.

I drove my 200000 miles 200 tdi on 24 psi and pump turnd open,
for 40000 miles without a problem.

- proper engine, i'm from belgium , engine conversions arn't allowd here,
2.5 tdi - 200tdi - 300tdi are fine, but v8 or other manufacturer engine
are impossible to make road legal

So an upgraded 300 tdi in a 87 base is my best option

tacr2man · Dec 21, 2014

How would you stand with a ex range rover Td6 ?

aaronmorris · Dec 21, 2014

Defender1987 said:
Time wil tel i think ,

But when you keep your egt at a safe limit ,
en boost level reasonable, this would be just fine.

I drove my 200000 miles 200 tdi on 24 psi and pump turnd open,
for 40000 miles without a problem.

- proper engine, i'm from belgium , engine conversions arn't allowd here,
2.5 tdi - 200tdi - 300tdi are fine, but v8 or other manufacturer engine
are impossible to make road legal

So an upgraded 300 tdi in a 87 base is my best option

Aye, it was said in jest, I know most people don't want to mess about fitting silly engines like some

I Also didn't realise you was in Belgium.
I've had 200/300/td5's and to be fair they're fine, it's a lr at the end of the day, it doesn't need to be like a rocket.
But a little tweak can make a massive difference and well worth doing.

200tdi ayre · Dec 21, 2014

aaronmorris said:
Aye, it was said in jest, I know most people don't want to mess about fitting silly engines like some
I Also didn't realise you was in Belgium.
I've had 200/300/td5's and to be fair they're fine, it's a lr at the end of the day, it doesn't need to be like a rocket.
But a little tweak can make a massive difference and well worth doing.

Put it this way ive ghost de catted, de egr'd and changed the turbo on a mates TD5 the other day without any chipping its faster than any tdi ive been in. Theres so many better engines out there than a tdi for alot less build up cost to get relative power

aaronmorris · Dec 21, 2014

200tdi ayre said:
Put it this way ive ghost de catted, de egr'd and changed the turbo on a mates TD5 the other day without any chipping its faster than any tdi ive been in. Theres so many better engines out there than a tdi for alot less build up cost to get relative power

Very true, but not everyone has the knowhow/tools/time to make other engines work.
So if they've got a tdi they stick with it kinda thing.

Defender1987 · Dec 21, 2014

Well ive i had the choice i should go for a v8 diesel
But not an option.

I did drive with a 50th v8 once and i wasn't that impressed.
Sounds nice and well but was expexting more power.

And i'm looking for 4 seats at least ,
A 50th v8 4 seater would cost me 1500 pounds road tax a year .

Think a well tuned 300 pulls almost the same,
And als planning to drive it a lot ,
So v8 isn't a good decision as i know it does 20l/ 100km

But if it was for a toy ,
Ill take the v8 !

Bennehboy · Dec 21, 2014

200tdi ayre said:
Put it this way ive ghost de catted, de egr'd and changed the turbo on a mates TD5 the other day without any chipping its faster than any tdi ive been in. Theres so many better engines out there than a tdi for alot less build up cost to get relative power

Mine's slightly rapid considering it's almost 3 ton.

Loz123 · Dec 24, 2014

Her's one for you boffins out there...

My mate's got a 200 90... he's had a good old fiddle with it, pump opened up, boost pin fitted and boost around the 15/16psi, de-cat and a small silencer in line before it comes out behind the passenger door...

When he comes past me floggin it at night, the exhaust is glowing red (at the outlet), so is the exhaust gas, giving it a type of bunsen burner look!! :flame:

Looks cool, and it's been like that for a fair few miles, but will that cause him problems in the long run??

Brown · Dec 24, 2014

Personally, I quite enjoy the sight of an exhaust glowing. It beats the fashionable cruising lights that some people have. My brother's Austin 7 Special had a tubular exhaust manifold which could be induced to glow brightly under hard acceleration. And that was with a tiny sidevalve engine. I don't know what the implications are for the life expectancy of a 200tdi but if your friend enjoys doing engine overhauls and rebores etc. I'm sure it will be win-win all round. The 200 tdi is in a fairly soft state of tune as standard so a few extra horsepower won't kill it too quickly.

tacr2man · Dec 24, 2014

Loz123 said:
Her's one for you boffins out there...

My mate's got a 200 90... he's had a good old fiddle with it, pump opened up, boost pin fitted and boost around the 15/16psi, de-cat and a small silencer in line before it comes out behind the passenger door...

When he comes past me floggin it at night, the exhaust is glowing red (at the outlet), so is the exhaust gas, giving it a type of bunsen burner look!! :flame:

Looks cool, and it's been like that for a fair few miles, but will that cause him problems in the long run??

it will most likely kill the turbo , or pistons , and most likely not in a very long run

200tdi ayre · Dec 24, 2014

Loz123 said:
Her's one for you boffins out there...

My mate's got a 200 90... he's had a good old fiddle with it, pump opened up, boost pin fitted and boost around the 15/16psi, de-cat and a small silencer in line before it comes out behind the passenger door...

When he comes past me floggin it at night, the exhaust is glowing red (at the outlet), so is the exhaust gas, giving it a type of bunsen burner look!! :flame:

Looks cool, and it's been like that for a fair few miles, but will that cause him problems in the long run??

Yes too hot egt's

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