jimleshed · Oct 31, 2023

Due to circumstances beyond my control I'm having to sell my landy, but I'm not sure what its worth...

**** SOLD ****
1987 300TDI, 7 seat.

Main good points

Last year I completely stripped and rebuilt it from the floor up. Main objective was to make it as good as I could underneath, while keeping it as it was on top - Nice and strong but looking pretty standard for its age.

Galvanised Chassis - Richards. Painted black.
Galvanised Bulkhead - Shielder.
Galzanised front bumper - painted black
New Shocks, springs, all polybushes.
New brake pipes, brake hoses.
Input diff seals, front and rear.
Rear Shoes
Handbrake shoes
New Tyres (5) Falken Wildpeak.
New sills
All new steering damper, track rod joints,, various other ball joints.
New water pump
New Radiator
All new water hoses.
New Cylinder head.
New vent flap seals
New Main bearings, big end shells, piston rings, front rear crank seals, timing chain and various other seals.
Balanced crank, rods, flywheel and pistons (std).
New clutch plate and bearings.
New Battery.
Lots of other new bits, nuts, bolts, mats, bulbs, seals in body parts etc etc. Major bits underneath were blasted and painted.
New fuel tank (3 years ago?)
MOT expires 2/1/24

Bad points

Engine block is probably cracked - if I could link to the thread about it you'll see the details - hence why lots of work has been done on the engine/cooling system.
Front brake calipers partly seized (its mainly been standing for the best part of a year)
edit - No longer a Cat C. Insurance database error!
For some reason its a Cat C - I wasnt aware when I bought it 8 years ago - still checking on this though.

Conclusion

Solid, sorted Land rover 90, that needs a new engine, and brakes fixing. Not shiney and perfect outside. Might be good for Electrification (I have a couple of Electric conversion people aware of it, in case they have clients looking)

When I can sort out how to do it, I'll stick up some pictures.

Any clues as to value? Replacement motor (S/H) seem to be about £500-£1000 - recons are £3500 ish?

Make me an offer. Vehicle is in East Dorset

£11,000 Seems fair

miktdish · Oct 31, 2023

jimleshed said:
Due to circumstances beyond my control I'm having to sell my landy, but I'm not sure what its worth...

1987 300TDI, 7 seat.
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Any clues as to value? Replacement motor (S/H) seem to be about £500-£1000 - recons are £3500 ish?
Make me an offer. Vehicle is in East Dorset

I think the point is 'what do you want for it ?' you have to come up with that figure.
The unfortunate reality is that you are likely not to get what you have paid or what you think it's worth.

It will likely sell pretty quick for 10K or less.
I probably won't sell for £19K +

I'd be lucky to get 12K for my 1994, 300tdi 90 despite the fact that it's cost me near on 20K

lynall · Oct 31, 2023

Chuck up some pics and people will give you a good idea on price.
The knack engine is less important than the galv chassis and bulkhead.

jimleshed · Oct 31, 2023

jimleshed · Oct 31, 2023

This was just after rebuild, but before I put sills on. Its not usually that shiny!

lynall · Oct 31, 2023

jimleshed said:
This was just after rebuild, but before I put sills on. Its not usually that shiny!

That is a nice looking car.

miktdish · Oct 31, 2023

Looks nice, unusual rear safari door window.

jimleshed · Oct 31, 2023

Yes, drop down flap, with lift up window. Good to sit on while watching stuff!

Knappster · Oct 31, 2023

Nice looking Landy. For the cost of a replacement 300Tdi and 12 months’ MOT, it will sell for a considerable amount more in my opinion. I’d get both done if you can.

jimleshed · Nov 1, 2023

Unfortunately I don't have that option, so its up for sale.

jimleshed · Nov 23, 2023

Chasing the insurance company from when it was classified as Cat C was well worth it. They just got back and confirmed that it was not mine that was written off, different make/model.
So, not a Cat C after all.

Rock Basher · Nov 23, 2023

Incorrect engine for 1987
Replacement chassis.
Who knows what else has been done to it or where the parts have come from . £5k at best because it's very messed around with

marjon · Nov 23, 2023

Rock Basher said:
Incorrect engine for 1987
Replacement chassis.
Who knows what else has been done to it or where the parts have come from . £5k at best because it's very messed around with

You really need to wind your neck in.

How many LRs do you know that are original?
Most have been restored/rejuvenated/given a longer life.

Some improvements are made on the way.

Is yours original? as I see you haven't shown it on your introduction thread

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Oh Mine is by the way, sorry all ours are

.

J

Rock Basher · Nov 23, 2023

Yes my land rover is original. Chassis is as it was with matching numbers engine ,gearbox axles etc.

So how about YOU wind your neck in .

bitsa landys are two a penny and really only worth what someone will pay.
Matching number original vehicles will fetch guide prices.

Replacement chassis vehicles are only worth junk really

jimleshed · Nov 23, 2023

Yes, I know it should be a 200tdi, but the engine change is correctly recorded in v5, and was done a long time before I bought it. Major parts are noted as to source. All parts I used are from new from reputable dealers. Ok, not original Landrover, but how many actually use them.
Original head will be included in sale. My work is to a far higher standard than any I found while rebuilding it.

marjon · Nov 23, 2023

Rock Basher said:
Yes my land rover is original. Chassis is as it was with matching numbers engine ,gearbox axles etc.

So how about YOU wind your neck in .

bitsa landys are two a penny and really only worth what someone will pay.
Matching number original vehicles will fetch guide prices.

Replacement chassis vehicles are only worth junk really

So I suggest we not derail this thread anymore and you post pics in your introduction fred with the work you have done.

As far as the comment for "Replacement chassis vehicles are only worth junk really " Then you are talking rubbish.

Anyway I will not taint this thread anymore by replying to you.

J

Rock Basher · Nov 23, 2023

marjon said:
So I suggest we not derail this thread anymore and you post pics in your introduction fred with the work you have done.

As far as the comment for "Replacement chassis vehicles are only worth junk really " Then you are talking rubbish.

Anyway I will not taint this thread anymore by replying to you.

J

Bye

miktdish · Nov 23, 2023

Rock Basher said:
bitsa landys are two a penny and really only worth what someone will pay.
Matching number original vehicles will fetch guide prices.

Replacement chassis vehicles are only worth junk really

Nope, totally untrue.
An original 1993 landrover is not worth more than 1 with a galvanised chassis and bulkhead. One that has likely had new calipers, new wheelbearings, new UJ's and a host of other items that will have worn out during the 30 years it has been on the road.
30 years of use.
30 years ago landrovers weren't used to take the kids to school and pop to the shops, they were used as a utility vehicle.
In that 30 years they have likely done 120,000 miles +.
Bushes will be worn
The electrics will be worn, the cables brittled with age.

They are without doubt not worth as much as one that has been 'refurbished'.
Yes there may have been some questionable work done on them (I bought one that fell into that camp) but it is still worth more than an 'original'.

There maybe an original out there, with matching everything.
It may have been coddled in a warm, dry, salt free environment for 30 years and have less than 40k on the clock. It may have been owned by the wife of an absolute enthusiast mechanic who was under the car at every opportunity and cleaned the chassis, gear linkages, steering arms and other ancillaries, replacing belts with original LR parts, ensuring the door frames were isolated from the alluminium skin and that the tub, support rails and seat box is in pristine condition.
Never raced, rallied or rolled....

More likely that 30 year old 'original' is in need of a lot of work.
It will need a new chassis, patching up and a new rear x-member as a minimum.
The transmission will be clonky, the steering vague, the engine tired and a tad smokey.
Belts will be a shadow of their former selves as will ancillary bearings and water pumps etc.
The tin-worm will be rampant in the door frames, the A pillars and where the seatbelt stays meet the outriggers.

It will not be worth more than a 'replacement chassis vehicle'.
That statement is born from abolute inexperience and a complete lack of knowlege.

Rock Basher · Nov 23, 2023

Lol

did you have fun typing all that?

Chalky. · Nov 23, 2023

Rock Basher said:
Lol did you have fun typing all that?

You are a complete tit.

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