Done some more investigation and the problem is back to the small wire on the starter or the starter it self when you hold the small wire on the terminal you get a small blue spark and the car starts no bother at all
I've put a new ignition switch on and changed the number 4 relay checked and cleaned the small wire to the starter and it's still doing the same just wondering if it could be the starter motor sticking
I've traced the wires back from the reverse switch and they go back to a connector behind the fuel filter housing then into the wiring loom does anyone know what this connector is for
checked all connectors this morning and there is no power to the switch but the fuse is fine and I followed the wire back from the switch and they goto the fusebox in the engine bay but there is no fuse or relay in there that I can see