sierrafery
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So at least that's ruled out then... go further as i explained, i dont envy you with this faultcompletely replaced the engine fuse box - no difference.
So at least that's ruled out then... go further as i explained, i dont envy you with this faultcompletely replaced the engine fuse box - no difference.
I'd try just getting it to turn over without starting, first. One thing at a time.+1^
I'd do more or less exactly this, disconnect the wire from any electronic box of tricks that is supposed to trigger the starter motor, turn the key to "ignition on", then connect positive from the batt direct to the connection on the starter to get it to turn the engine over and hopefully start it.
If this works then you know for a fact that the problem lies between the ignition switch and the starter via whatever ECMs etc there are linked to it.
And the best of British with finding it.
I'd try just getting it to turn over without starting, first. One thing at a time.
Tell us, does it get particularly damp inside your Disco? And does the "not starting" or the starting coincide with the damp or lack of it?Well after not being able to start it (despite trying) for days, I attempted to demonstrate the issue to a friend and it started first time - I give up!! Havenât tried again yet, will do that when I have a bit more patience and try the negative/jump lead suggestion.
Happy Christmas all!
Good idea, but if it was getting damp would it dry out at all in this weather ??Tell us, does it get particularly damp inside your Disco? And does the "not starting" or the starting coincide with the damp or lack of it?
Wondering if damp is getting into the ECM or ignition switch.
The starter motor is brand new. And oem. I fitted it about 3 weeks agoGood idea, but if it was getting damp would it dry out at all in this weather ??
It is a very strange one though. Intermittent starting would definitely make me think ignition or starter motor issues.
As I mentioned before, maybe a dry joint on a circuit board, but then I am no electrickeryitian.@Stanleysteamer - no doesnât get damp inside. The only thing I have noticed is that when itâs cold itâs seemed to start more consistently. But that might just be me imagining things!
You can eliminate the MAF immediately simply by unplugging it. It'll run very well on the map the EDM holds.Tried Tilly2âs suggestion. Voltage on initial read is 12v and drops to just over 11.9x on crank. It started 3x today!
Drove it around and power wouldnât come in properly - very lumpy. Almost like the MAF was malfunctioning
Also noticed what looked like oil slowing dripping down drivers side of engine but think it might actually be a leaking FPR (again).
When I was under the vehicle doing the voltage test (and it wasnât starting) I could hear the starter spinning up fine
My two options now are; 1) get it to the garage or 2) scrap it
Iâm 70:30 in favour of option 2 unfortunately as itâs not been on the road for 3 months now and Iâm just running out of time and money to get it working
Thats voltage at the starter. Not the batteryYou can eliminate the MAF immediately simply by unplugging it. It'll run very well on the map the EDM holds.
The Map/Iat on the other hand is more likely to be a problem. And that can be checked out using live data.
But others will come on and scream at you that those are such low voltages you are lucky to get it to crank and run at all!
They will also tell you to check the inside of the red plug on the ECM and inside the ECM itself for oil pollution running down the inside of the insulation of the wires coming from the injection loom.
Still wishing you luck. Seems a real shame to scrap it when you are so near to getting it running properly.
You've got carried away again with other irrelevant things for an ELECTRICAL FAULT which causes power blackout, the rest is a consequence of that ... i gave you clear instructions what to do here https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/wonât-bloody-start.389329/page-3#post-5624239 all you did was to rule out the engine bay fusebox which was agood move then started again with other kind of unusefull tricks... follow that path if you want to get to the bottom of this, everything else is useless at this pointThats voltage at the starter. Not the battery
It shouldnât be the MAF as itâs less than a year old and oem. But will check, along with the running figures for MAP/IAFP
Sorry, I obviously misread your post or didnât understand fully as I took the engine bay fuse box swap to override the other checks. Will re-read and try again although electrics are not my comfort zone!You've got carried away again with other irrelevant things for an ELECTRICAL FAULT which causes power blackout, the rest is a consequence of that ... i gave you clear instructions what to do here https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/wonât-bloody-start.389329/page-3#post-5624239 all you did was to rule out the engine bay fusebox which was agood move then started again with other kind of unusefull tricks... follow that path if you want to get to the bottom of this, everything else is useless at this point