Thanks for all the replies.
Winter tyres vs summer tyres



It would be bizarre to buy a Land Rover product and not enjoy driving in the snow and ice. Vredestein Snowtracs have worked well for me in the past on a 2WD vehicle, although noisy on dry tarmac, Vredestein Wintrac might be an option, or possibly General Grabber AT2.
Mountain / snow mark seems to be important https://info.kaltire.com/what-is-the-winter-tire-symbol/
Yesterday was challenging

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wammers said:
You don't need winter tyres in this country normal tyres are good enough. Just lower the pressures a little if driving on snow for the few days it's around.
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had a new set of cooper at/3s fitted on mine and must admit they done well , let the usual nut jobs overtake me down the dual carriageways etc , felt 30mph was fast enough and just drove according to the conditions

later on did see an idiot who trying to drift round the asda carpark, then as i was walking into the shop heard a thump, oh dear he hit the wall, oh shucks what a shame

still suprising how many 4x4s i saw with low profiles , pot holes must really like them, lol
 
I am currently just using road tyres on my bus (IIRC, Uniroyal 4x4 Rallye Street) and they have been coping just fine.

You don't need all singing all dancing tyres, I got mine because they were cheap and I've not died so far. Only breaks in traction have been when I've wanted to have a little fun. Although how much fun you can have is seriously limited by traction control. I wish I could turn it on and off with a switch. :/
 
Had general grabbers on mine tilll just had to change front two for mot grabbers were good trying Pirelli zeros now will post as soon as get chance to see what there like
 
Mike7777777 said:
Thanks, do you use them all year round? If so, how do they work on wet grass and mud?
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On the side of the tyre it says M+S (meaning mud and snow). The tread pattern is nice and open to fling the snow out. They're very grippy. They're slightly noisier at 70mph and above so if you do a lot of motorway driving you might want to consider something a little more road based.

@Mark Piercy: on the pictures online the AT3 seems to have a narrower more road-like tread pattern. Is that the case of does it just look it in the photos? Mind you, the AT2 are £30 cheaper a corner!
 
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Grrrrrr said:
On the side of the tyre it says M+S (meaning mud and snow). The tread pattern is nice and open to fling the snow out. They're very grippy. They're slightly noisier at 70mph and above so if you do a lot of motorway driving you might want to consider something a little more road based.

@Mark Piercy: on the pictures online the AT3 seems to have a narrower more road-like tread pattern. Is that the case of does it just look it in the photos? Mind you, the AT2 are £30 cheaper a corner!
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Correct, It's is quite a flat pattern and pretty quiet on the road, i don't do 70mph often but I've not found them noisy! I will say they rip the crap out of my grass and do clear mud quickly;):cool: they are 50/50!
 
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Used All seasons for many years and figured people who wasted their money on winter tires were daft( drove a big 3/4 ton Ford 4x4.). That is until I actually bought snow tires. I was converted in about 10 minutes. The softer rubber and differentiated treads make them superior to M&S. Studies have also indicated that some of the newer snows are almost as good as studded. The trade off is they wear faster. I've started running mine all year long. Less hassle.
 
dstainton said:
Used All seasons for many years and figured people who wasted their money on winter tires were daft( drove a big 3/4 ton Ford 4x4.). That is until I actually bought snow tires. I was converted in about 10 minutes. The softer rubber and differentiated treads make them superior to M&S. Studies have also indicated that some of the newer snows are almost as good as studded. The trade off is they wear faster. I've started running mine all year long. Less hassle.
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Were I where you are I might as well. But where I am we are lucky to get a week of snow and the roads are usually clear within a day. I do get a lot more mud, pulling firewood out though. Every so often I do some motorways as well so AT or road tyres suit me best. Further north on the Pennines or Highlands I'd be tempted to go AT. If I were in Sweden or similar then snow tyres would be a must in the winter.
 
Grrrrrr said:
Were I where you are I might as well. But where I am we are lucky to get a week of snow and the roads are usually clear within a day. I do get a lot more mud, pulling firewood out though. Every so often I do some motorways as well so AT or road tyres suit me best. Further north on the Pennines or Highlands I'd be tempted to go AT. If I were in Sweden or similar then snow tyres would be a must in the winter.
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Yes, we often get dumps. My driveways are steep and long. Winter tires really make a difference.
 
When at home in Russia this winter and being sent the wrong size tyres by Bridgestone I fitted locally available winter tyres made by Tiger in Slovakia but owned by Dunlop and at a much cheaper cost. The fitter told me don't go on ice but in snow they will be fine. True to his word the tyres worked great in the snow and cold road conditions and never had a grip problem and the beast felt great and I was very comfortable driving but each to their own. These tyres did only 600miles and the beast is now parked with them on for my return home next winter.
 
dstainton said:
Used All seasons for many years and figured people who wasted their money on winter tires were daft( drove a big 3/4 ton Ford 4x4.). That is until I actually bought snow tires. I was converted in about 10 minutes. The softer rubber and differentiated treads make them superior to M&S. Studies have also indicated that some of the newer snows are almost as good as studded. The trade off is they wear faster. I've started running mine all year long. Less hassle.
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That's been my experience. Snow tyres can be extreme e.g. Vredestein Snowtrac, fine on ice, snow and slush but sound like distant panzers on tarmac, also a bit wobbly when the weather gets warmer.
I'm happy to swap wheels and tyres, but I think winter tyres rather than snow tyres. The current Geolander G012s have plenty of tread on them, so they'll do for spring/summer/autumn, I have a spare set of wheels with mismatched tyres.
 
Mike7777777 said:
That's been my experience. Snow tyres can be extreme e.g. Vredestein Snowtrac, fine on ice, snow and slush but sound like distant panzers on tarmac, also a bit wobbly when the weather gets warmer.
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Too right there. My Rangie had them on when I got it and I hated them!
 
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