Karls · Jan 2, 2022

I’m helping clear some fallen trees and need to winch sections of an Ash tree up a wooded incline. The Landy will be on grass above the incline but still a slight downward slope. The turf is pretty soft. Can anyone recommend some decent winching chocks that will anchor themselves into the soil?
Also about 20 feet behind the Landy is a substantial tree that I could attach the rear of the Landy to - it’s got a Blacksheep rear cross member so it’s all pretty substantial back there - would you just rope it to the tree and utilize the tow bar?

Western Slope Rover · Jan 2, 2022

I would use the tree if it can be reached as well as some chocks.

marjon · Jan 2, 2022

Yes

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Oh hang on how big are the bits of wood

J

Karls · Jan 2, 2022

The wood is about 600-900mm diameter but the lengths will be no more than 900mm long. I will rope the rear to the tree and use chocks but need some recommendations on what chocks to go for?

Western Slope Rover · Jan 2, 2022

Karls said:
The wood is about 600-900mm diameter but the lengths will be no more than 900mm long. I will rope the rear to the tree and use chocks but need some recommendations on what chocks to go for?

I'm Merkin, thus somewhat crude, but I've used carefully chosen rocks for chocks on several occasions.

Dippypud · Jan 2, 2022

Western Slope Rover said:
I'm Merkin, thus somewhat crude, but I've used carefully chosen rocks for chocks on several occasions.

That's fair ...

I glanced at the title and read it as chooks at first ... not many big as**d chickens around here

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Turboman · Jan 2, 2022

Karls said:
The wood is about 600-900mm diameter but the lengths will be no more than 900mm long. I will rope the rear to the tree and use chocks but need some recommendations on what chocks to go for?

I used to find a 4wd tractor very effective.

marjon · Jan 2, 2022

Karls said:
The wood is about 600-900mm diameter but the lengths will be no more than 900mm long. I will rope the rear to the tree and use chocks but need some recommendations on what chocks to go for?

Probably around 700kg max (guess)so would be surprised if you would need chocks.
Dig a couple of holes and put the front wheels in

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J

Dippypud · Jan 2, 2022

Turboman said:
I used to find a 4wd tractor very effective.

At a push and depending on terrain a ground anchor maybe ok ...

Always use a tree strop when roping to a tree, better for them and you ...

marjon · Jan 2, 2022

Turboman said:
I used to find a 4wd tractor very effective.

That’s what he’s got

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J

Dippypud · Jan 2, 2022

marjon said:
Probably around 700kg max (guess)so would be surprised if you would need chocks.
Dig a couple of holes and put the front wheels in.

J

Would that be for a straight pull or more complicated shift ?

marjon · Jan 2, 2022

Dippypud said:
Would that be for a straight pull or more complicated shift ?

sorry I didn’t include drag coefficient over muddy ground

J

Turboman · Jan 2, 2022

marjon said:
That’s what he’s got.

J

Good. Nothing like a Massey!

Turboman · Jan 2, 2022

Dippypud said:
At a push and depending on terrain a ground anchor maybe ok ...

Always use a tree strop when roping to a tree, better for them and you ...

I didn't use to rope to anything. Just stick it in gear and pull the timber out!

Dippypud · Jan 2, 2022

Turboman said:
I didn't use to rope to anything. Just stick it in gear and pull the timber out!

He mentioned a tree ..

" about 20 feet behind the Landy is a substantial tree that I could attach the rear of the Landy to " ...

I think that was to stop himself sliding for'ard whilst pulling the timber ...

Turboman · Jan 2, 2022

Dippypud said:
He mentioned a tree ..

" about 20 feet behind the Landy is a substantial tree that I could attach the rear of the Landy to " ...

I know. But he didn't like that suggestion, kept on going on about chocks. I have never had any, so I suggested getting a purpose built timber towing machine.

Western Slope Rover · Jan 2, 2022

Dippypud said:
He mentioned a tree ..

" about 20 feet behind the Landy is a substantial tree that I could attach the rear of the Landy to " ...

I think that was to stop himself sliding for'ard whilst pulling the timber ...

Unless, of course, the attachment to the tree was less than adequate.

Dippypud · Jan 2, 2022

Western Slope Rover said:
Unless, of course, the attachment to the tree was less than adequate.

Hence the use of a tree strop, less damage to the tree, so it might do the job well enough ...

Turboman · Jan 2, 2022

Dippypud said:
Hence the use of a tree strop, less damage to the tree, so it might do the job well enough ...

Geet hawser like you moor a ship with, you won't get a problem!

The purple strops are very good, think they are 20 tonne rated. Fraction the price of proper tree strops from Honey Bros.

Dippypud · Jan 2, 2022

Turboman said:
Geet hawser like you moor a ship with, you won't get a problem!

The purple strops are very good, think they are 20 tonne rated. Fraction the price of proper tree strops from Honey Bros.

Geet hawsers act like a garrote on trees ...

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