kyotekid67

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Hi, apologies if this has been asked already :confused:
I am planning on getting a winch for the front of my classic RR but being a novice in this field have no idea which is best either for value/reliability/use.
Any suggestions?????
 
I asked exactly the same a few weeks ago and all I got was people telling me I dont need an electric bumper mounted winch, they all told me not to bother and to buy a Tirfor handwinch.

For proper advice I suggest you ask on some other forums/websites, LR4x4's a good one!
 
I asked exactly the same a few weeks ago and all I got was people telling me I dont need an electric bumper mounted winch, they all told me not to bother and to buy a Tirfor handwinch.

For proper advice I suggest you ask on some other forums/websites, LR4x4's a good one!

In what way is my advice not "proper"?
In what way(s) is an electric winch superior to a Tirfor?

Cock.
 
I think he was talking about choice, Trew. I dont think there is any doubt that, in the right hands, a Tirfor is better, but for the occasional dragging a tree out of the way, an electric winch is easier (for us lazy sods, anyway). Maybe he dint want to know what was best?
 
Hi, apologies if this has been asked already :confused:
I am planning on getting a winch for the front of my classic RR but being a novice in this field have no idea which is best either for value/reliability/use.
Any suggestions?????

Tirfor might not be easiest to use, but it's certainly best for value and reliability!
 
Elecric ones certainly seem to be a lot less reliable - particularly if immersed in water and mud regularly.
 
Budget? How Often you going to be use it? What you going to be using it for?

Warn 8247 is good as G-man said, is very good but VERY Expensive.

If i was buying a leccy winch, I would be looking at quality makes such as Warn, Goodwinch ect
 
In what way is my advice not "proper"?
In what way(s) is an electric winch superior to a Tirfor?

Cock.

How about you go **** yourself....

I never said an electric winch was superior, the OP asked about a winch for "the front" of his RRC....that would imply that he's asking about a bumper mounted winch and not a hand winch.

If I recall, you said something very similar when I specifically asked about an electric winch for myself!!!!
 
How about you go **** yourself....

I never said an electric winch was superior, the OP asked about a winch for "the front" of his RRC....that would imply that he's asking about a bumper mounted winch and not a hand winch.

If I recall, you said something very similar when I specifically asked about an electric winch for myself!!!!


OOOooooOOOO someone has his pants too tight!

yer can mount a turfor on the front then yer just have to take it off to use it :D

if you want a winch that will be reliable and can be used anywhere go for a turfor

if you want one that is massively powerful, fast and will work underwater get a hydraulic one,

otherwise use an electric one
 
How about you go **** yourself....

I never said an electric winch was superior, the OP asked about a winch for "the front" of his RRC....that would imply that he's asking about a bumper mounted winch and not a hand winch.

If I recall, you said something very similar when I specifically asked about an electric winch for myself!!!!

Oh, I really am awfully sorry Tarquin. Please accept my humble apologies for profering an answer / opinion which does not fdit exactly with your pre-concieved idea.










Now **** off to LRO - your mother's waiting there for you to **** her.
 
Another advantage of a Tirfor is that you can you is with a naked engine. Leccy one will flatten a battery in no time, Hydralic one needs a pump
 
Another advantage of a Tirfor is that you can you is with a naked engine. Leccy one will flatten a battery in no time, Hydralic one needs a pump

yer can get hydraulic hand pumps........... would take a month to move the thing but would be fun watching for a while lol
 
The answer depends on a few different things...

Here is the answer I gave CoupeUK in his post...

For starters, you need to know what parts are required, and what different winches are available...the main two are electric and hydraulic.
Electric winches are (relatively) easy to fit, then run off battery. They can run when your engine is not running, but can drain your battery, so many regular users opt for twin battery and split charging kit. Problems with electric winches include water damnage caused to motor or electrical solenoids. motors can burn out too.

Hydraulic winches are a bit more involved to fit, as you have to fit some source of Hydraulic power, most people use a power steering pump. Hydraulic winches have faster line speeds, can sometimes pull more than an electric winch, are a million times less susceptible to water damage. Hydraulic winches need the engine to be running in order to work.


Winch rating is usually 1.5 times the weight of your car, ie a 2 ton car requires a 3 ton winch. most people go with around 9000lbs ( over 4tons).

The best make (in my opinion) is Warn, however, they tend to be much more expensive than other winches. Sup[erwinch are also good.

I beleive Ramsey are a good hydraulic winch company, as are milemarker, however I HAVE NEVER USED OR OWNED A HYDRAULIC WINCH.]
Hopefully somebody who has, can give more advice.

I have had a Warn 9.5ti before, which was very good, I now have a Warn 9.5 xp which is also very good and fast.

The main winch used for competiotions is the Warn 8274, a monster of a winch, which can be extensively modified for higher performance.

The cable on the winch can either be a steel cable, which is strong, relatively maintenance free, and very cheap to replace, or synthetic rope, which is very light, but very expensive. I beleive synthetic rope floats too. synthetic rope can melt on some winches, which have a brake inside the rope drum.
The main benefit of paying around £200 for synthetic rope, as opposed to £40 for steel, is that if a steel cable snaps, it will recoil at great speed and could easily kill somebody. A synthetic rope will fall to the ground if it snaps.

Winch mount is dependent on tast, requirements and budget, but the main thing is that it is well constructed, and mounted correctly. The mount should anchor your winch to the chassis, in order to take the loads imposed on it. Some winches are just bolted onto bumpers - if used, the bumpers can simply peel away from the car, or they can shear at the wrong time, causing injury etc.

You'll also need come battery cable, to connect your winch up to your battery and you could fit an isolation solenoid too (switch on your dash which either supplies power, or cuts power to your winch)

You'll also need to buy a winching kit, which usually consists of a few strops, shackles, tree savers and snatch block. If you're in recovery, Im sure you'll have these anyway.
Dont forget a decent pair of thick leather gloves too.

Some cheaper winches are available, but the general concensus (I beleive) is that you get what you pay for. Google it and you'll se pics of many a cheap Chinese winch in bits. There are many satisfied owners of these winches too, but if it were me, I'd surf ebay etc for a second hand Warn winch, in good condition, rather than a brand new cheap winch, which may let you down.

Here's the post

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f16/what-should-i-looking-winch-109694.html
 

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