Freetime101 · Jul 17, 2014

Howdy,

The time has come to fit new brake lines, I intend to make my own so will need a cutting/flaring kit. I've had a bit of a search and it seems that Sykes Pickavant is the best around, however I have two problems with this:

1: I don't have a vice
2: I'm not loaded!

What is the second best option? Has anybody got any experience with this one: Land Rover Series I-III 3/8" Unf Brake Pipe Repair Kit | eBay

Brakes are fairly important so I want to get this right first time so will be avoiding cheap and nasty tools

Alternatively does anyone have a Sykes Pickavant they fancy lending me?

Cheers

Iann · Jul 17, 2014

This looks a good bit of kit

It works on the same lines as the old school ones
Brake Pipe Flaring Tool kit "for 4.75mm(3/16"")and 6mm (1/4"")pipes | eBay

aaronmorris · Jul 17, 2014

I bought a cheapo flaring tool, Couldn't get good constant results so went and bought a Sykes Pickavant flare master.
Handheld so no vice needed and good flares every time.

boguing · Jul 17, 2014

I've got the Laser one. Halfords | Tool Connection Laser Flaring Tool In Situ - 3434

You need to keep a watch as you use it because it doesn't always align perfectly. That said, it will do a very good job.

Freetime101 · Jul 17, 2014

Pricey though

aaronmorris · Jul 17, 2014

Agreed, But I wanted something that's going to last and give me good reliable flares.
If I remember right you can get just the tool for about £100
I'd offer to lend mine if you was closer.

trax · Jul 17, 2014

tried the cheap clampy ones, made rubbish flares and pipe slipped.. you could probably make them though.

bought a sp flaremaster2.. perfect everytime and you can do it on the vehicle. i'm going to buy the upgrade flares to do larger pipes.

ask the garage if they'd flare some for you.. some will do it for a couple of pints, some free

aaronmorris · Jul 17, 2014

trax said:
tried the cheap clampy ones, made rubbish flares and pipe slipped.. you could probably make them though.

bought a sp flaremaster2.. perfect everytime and you can do it on the vehicle. i'm going to buy the upgrade flares to do larger pipes.

ask the garage if they'd flare some for you.. some will do it for a couple of pints, some free

I bought mine with the 6mm flares, Not had to use them yet, But sure they'll come in at some point in the future.

Freetime101 · Jul 17, 2014

You lot have done this to me before! I was considering a cheap MIG welder but the forum convinced me to shell out on a 151TE - you're bad news for budgets

I'm not too worried about the lifespan of the tool, I only need it once but I need the flares to be perfect - I'll need them a lot longer!

You can get just the Sykes tool for £100 or so, but I'd need to buy a cutter etc anyway...

If the Laser one will work, I may just go for that and take a bit more care when using it? Or should I plumb for the SP and sell it when I'm done?

trax · Jul 17, 2014

aaronmorris said:
I bought mine with the 6mm flares, Not had to use them yet, But sure they'll come in at some point in the future.

nah they are useless.. i wouldn't bother keeping them

i'll give you a fiver

aaronmorris · Jul 17, 2014

Freetime101 said:
You lot have done this to me before! I was considering a cheap MIG welder but the forum convinced me to shell out on a 151TE - you're bad news for budgets

I'm not too worried about the lifespan of the tool, I only need it once but I need the flares to be perfect - I'll need them a lot longer!

You can get just the Sykes tool for £100 or so, but I'd need to buy a cutter etc anyway...

If the Laser one will work, I may just go for that and take a bit more care when using it? Or should I plumb for the SP and sell it when I'm done?

Cutters can be gotten for a few quid, You don't need the bending pliers (Just do it by hand)
And I can't say I've ever used a de-ber tool.
But buying it to sell seems a good option, Which should recoupe a fair chunk of the cost.

trax said:
nah they are useless.. i wouldn't bother keeping them

i'll give you a fiver

I guess you'll want free postage as well

trax · Jul 17, 2014

aaronmorris said:
I guess you'll want free postage as well

please, and chuck in a box of sockets

aaronmorris · Jul 17, 2014

trax said:
please, and chuck in a box of sockets

Well I cant sell the bloody things

owl · Jul 17, 2014

If it is just a one off job I would cut the pipes to length, put the unions on with a masking tape label stating which type of flare you need and take the whole lot to a garage and get the flares done.

landowner · Jul 17, 2014

I use this one ( 8th item down)
VWP - brake pipes & fittings
Did several flares with it today repiping my back axle, always had good results, use a small pipe cutting tool like the one on the page as well

SteveD · Jul 17, 2014

I got this one and it works great Sealey AK506 Brake Pipe Flaring & Cutting Tool Kit Set 10pc in Carry Case | eBay they are out of stock at the moment hence the price but it was £17.85 inc p&p.

livers · Jul 17, 2014

Freetime101 said:
You lot have done this to me before! I was considering a cheap MIG welder but the forum convinced me to shell out on a 151TE - you're bad news for budgets

I'm not too worried about the lifespan of the tool, I only need it once but I need the flares to be perfect - I'll need them a lot longer!

You can get just the Sykes tool for £100 or so, but I'd need to buy a cutter etc anyway...

If the Laser one will work, I may just go for that and take a bit more care when using it? Or should I plumb for the SP and sell it when I'm done?

Unless you are doing it every day get the cheapest you can find. The flare is only a help, the seal is made when you tighten the union and compress the pipe.
SP kit £***** local market kit P*** if it seals job is OK

waldershelf · Jul 17, 2014

I have one of these Franklin Tools Hand Held Brake Pipe Flaring Tool AF2003 3/16: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools makes good flares every time. I've just replaced all the brake pipes on my 90 including some flares made on the vehicle without a single failure. The only downside with this kit is it's a one trick pony, 3/16 single and double flairs nothing else.

gstuart · Jul 17, 2014

i had to replace my brake lines last year and bought one of the cheaper flaring tools

http://www.amazon.co.uk/AK5063-Pipe...sbs_diy_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=17FKNPXMMB4KZM699QRJ

found it useless, on my old series hired a professional flaring tool and done the job perfectly each and every time

when i done the lines on my hippo, on pressing the brake pedal one of the flares blew out, on taking it apart found the flare had split

got a mechanic in with a professional flaring tool and he cut the flares off and redone them all.

never had a flare burst and scared the life out of me and found the cheaper tools not up to the same standards

only thing i can say is hire one if its a one off or get a garage or company to do them for you

after all its ur brakes

hope u didnt mind me saying and doesnt come across as rude

landowner · Jul 17, 2014

gstuart said:
i had to replace my brake lines last year and bought one of the cheaper flaring tools

http://www.amazon.co.uk/AK5063-Pipe...sbs_diy_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=17FKNPXMMB4KZM699QRJ

found it useless, on my old series hired a professional flaring tool and done the job perfectly each and every time

when i done the lines on my hippo, on pressing the brake pedal one of the flares blew out, on taking it apart found the flare had split

got a mechanic in with a professional flaring tool and he cut the flares off and redone them all.

never had a flare burst and scared the life out of me and found the cheaper tools not up to the same standards

only thing i can say is hire one if its a one off or get a garage or company to do them for you

after all its ur brakes

hope u didnt mind me saying and doesnt come across as rude

I've used that very tool with great success, maybe you had a duff one

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