B

Bubz7471

New Member
Hi all would like to buy some accessories for the Freelander like side steps, handle covers to suit body colour, front and rear light protectors etc can anyone recommend a supplier? Also has anyone successfully converted there headlights from halogen to Xenon lamps? Was there much involved etc? Cheers in advance ;)
 
Hi mate

To be honest I find the best place to get accessories is fleabay. That's where I got my light guards, second hand side steps etc. Could spend all day contacting land rover surpliers.
 
E-bay is probably your best bet for any bits.
As for the hid conversion theres a few that have done it and said it is simply a plug in kit.....although apparently this will be an mot failiure next year when new guidlines come into effect so you would have to remove them before your test.
 
mjrimmer said:
E-bay is probably your best bet for any bits.
As for the hid conversion theres a few that have done it and said it is simply a plug in kit.....although apparently this will be an mot failiure next year when new guidlines come into effect so you would have to remove them before your test.
Click to expand...

Don't think so as they are a direct replacement part :D
 
Fur Trapper said:
Don't think so as they are a direct replacement part :D
Click to expand...

If he just wants to use xenon lamps then fair enough, but it sounds like he wants to convert to hid.....which my burger munching friend you can already get a tug from the police for now, and will fail an mot when the new rules come in.:D
 
mjrimmer said:
If he just wants to use xenon lamps then fair enough, but it sounds like he wants to convert to hid.....which my burger munching friend you can already get a tug from the police for now, and will fail an mot when the new rules come in.:D
Click to expand...
OH you are so sweet!:rolleyes: This topic came up months ago, so i went and researched them and they are legal in the uk on all vehicle's.

So go do your search and find out the facts instead of hear say.

look up are hid head lights legal in the uk :D:D
 
Fur Trapper said:
OH you are so sweet!:rolleyes: This topic came up months ago, so i went and researched them and they are legal in the uk on all vehicle's.

So go do your search and find out the facts instead of hear say.

look up are hid head lights legal in the uk :D:D
Click to expand...

Easy Septic,
have read, digest and come back with your comments.


"Copied from UKFN (ANDY G) mot tester for ford

Tonight I attended what is known as an MOT seminar, basically the head honchos from VOSA go to each area, and talk about the MOT scheme, including changes to the test.

As I said in the thread about the new EU directive, as soon as I knew what was changing in the MOT test I would post it up. These changes are to be brought into the test on 1st January 2012, not before. So here goes...

Steering lock operation - Steering locks not engaging when the ignition key is removed will fail.
Engine warning lamps, brake fluid warning lamps, ESP lamps, EPB lamps illumination - ANY of the above illuminated indicating a fault will fail.TPMS (Tyre pressure monitoring systems) warning lamps - Again, if illuminated indicating a fault, will fail.Airbag/SRS lamp illumination - If this warning lamp is illuminated it will fail.
HID Headlamps - Now, a little grey area here. They will be included in the new test, and will fail if they prove to be outside of the specified conditions... but the conditions and reasons for rejections haven't been written/decided yet, so sit tight.
Wiring - Any wiring (loomed or otherwise) that is damaged, or fitted in such a way that could cause damage to said wiring, or other systems will fail.
Engine mountings - Engine mountings will be a part of the test. incorrect mounting, corrosion in a prescribed area etc will fail.
PAS (Power assisted steering) fluid level will be tested.
Rear doors must open in the new test. Previously (and currently), if the tester feels he can access the testable items in the rear (seatbelts, prescribed areas etc) without needing the doors open, they don't need to open. This will now be a failure.
13 pin towbar sockets - tested for correct operation using a plug in testing tool.
Inappropriate modifications or repairs - The wording on this is quite vague at the moment, but if a major component has been modified, and that modification/repair makes the vehicle dangerous or seriously weakens the original component, expect it to fail.
ANY ball joint dust cover - The small rubber boots over ball joints must be intact and free or splits, tears or holes, or it fails.
All CVJ gaiters will be tested - Currently, only the front outer] CVJ gaiters are tested. This new rule extends it to inner and outer, front and rear.
A catalytic converter missing WILL be a reason for failure, regardless of whether or not the emissions limits are met.
Fuel pipe chaffing or damage - Currently they only fail when they are leaking, this rule means that any chaffing or rubbing causing damage will fail.
The braking imbalance limit is lowered to 30% across all axles.
Vehicles built post July 2010 will have to have at least 58% braking efficiency to pass (currently it's 50% for a dual circuit braking system)
Insecure batteries will become a failure
The main beam warning lamp must illuminate with the main beam lamps
All light switches must operate the corresponding lights immediately. No tapping, or wiggling to make it work!


Remember, these changes will all be brought into testing starting from the 1st January 2012. The exact wording of each failure has yet to be released, but the above list is what was presented to us earlier this evening. I've posted all I know currently, so unfortunately I can't help with any questions ."
 
Last edited:
DiscoPol said:
Easy Septic,
have read, digest and come back with your comments.


"Copied from UKFN (ANDY G) mot tester for ford

Tonight I attended what is known as an MOT seminar, basically the head honchos from VOSA go to each area, and talk about the MOT scheme, including changes to the test.

As I said in the thread about the new EU directive, as soon as I knew what was changing in the MOT test I would post it up. These changes are to be brought into the test on 1st January 2012, not before. So here goes...
HID Headlamps - Now, a little grey area here. They will be included in the new test, and will fail if they prove to be outside of the specified conditions... but the conditions and reasons for rejections haven't been written/decided yet, so sit tight.
."
Click to expand...
Yes I just went and looked also, and the conversion has to be done properly, with the right parts and be compliant with proper regulations. It's not a matter of just replacing the bulb ( which most people do) you need everything and then get them readjusted. And those who use lift kits and don't readjust there lights will get nicked also.

I wasn't coming on strong the pep was not right in what they said and how they said it:D
 
Fur Trapper said:
Yes I just went and looked also, and the conversion has to be done properly, with the right parts and be compliant with proper regulations. It's not a matter of just replacing the bulb ( which most people do) you need everything and then get them readjusted. And those who use lift kits and don't readjust there lights will get nicked also.

I wasn't coming on strong the pep was not right in what they said and how they said it:D
Click to expand...

It's not that simple hid lights have to be self leveling and have washers, correct lens etc. So the kits people buy off fleabay don't really do the job.
Have a read of this one.

http://www2.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps.html
 
mjrimmer said:
It's not that simple hid lights have to be self leveling and have washers, correct lens etc. So the kits people buy off fleabay don't really do the job.
Have a read of this one.

Aftermarket HID (Xenon) headlamps
Click to expand...


This is what I said. Has to be complaint with regulations.

That was a 2006 regulation you pointed me to.

The kits are there for retro fitting vehicles with hid lights, they have to use a Projection bulb to eliminate the stray light that is now a problem. The after market will produce what is necessary to become a legal lighting system as it will sell. And the new stuff in compliant.
 
It's a 2006 fact sheet that is still current....look at the top of the page, it was last updated june 10th this year and is the same on the new web site.
I agree if after market can produce it within regs then all's good.
I can see they should be able to get round self leveling but your still going to have to retro fit washer jets for your lights for it to conform.
My point was, most people will not bother and just fit the cheap conversion kits off e-bay......these are and probably always will be illegal
As far as I know for now there is no way to legally convert yer freelander to hid with any kit thats available at the moment.

...............I know your going to do a search and find the kit to prove me wrong!...:rolleyes:
 
mjrimmer said:
It's a 2006 fact sheet that is still current....look at the top of the page, it was last updated june 10th this year and is the same on the new web site.
I agree if after market can produce it within regs then all's good.
I can see they should be able to get round self leveling but your still going to have to retro fit washer jets for your lights for it to conform.
My point was, most people will not bother and just fit the cheap conversion kits off e-bay......these are and probably always will be illegal
As far as I know for now there is no way to legally convert yer freelander to hid with any kit thats available at the moment.

...............I know your going to do a search and find the kit to prove me wrong!...:rolleyes:
Click to expand...


No I'm not, I don't need them:D But we both agree and we both learned things. This was a fun post, lots of info for each of us and other peeps.
Plus no name calling wellllll(except the septic word:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::D)

And Discpol came in at the right time with the right info and hope the peeps can get there stuff compliant by Jan2012. How early can you get your mot's might want to get them in Dec to gain sometime for 2012 changes

Was fun mjrimmer, later :D:DFT
 
As already said, HID replacement kits are not only illegal, but also dazzle horribly in most 'old school' reflector units. The vehicle also needs headlight washers & auto-levelling electronics too. H4 replacement kits in particular are bad because they have to physically move the light source for dip & main beams and cannot be accurate enough to be in the right focal position. The only headlights which are really perfect for these conversions are the projector style units, as they have a mask which prevents any stray light dazzle.

I simply replaced my Lucas H4 bulbs with Osram 'Night Breakers'. They boast a 90% increase in light output and they made a hell of a difference to my night driving - best upgrade yet!
 
................. I'm quite happy using my 'little anolouge tea candles' in my headlight lenses, dunno why ppl wanna get these new digital type HID bulbs (can't see the point), what advantage do they have??
 
it gives the hairdressers in Audi TT and mx5's laser eye surgery. must be bright to them down there hugging the tarmac
 
Streetlander said:
................. I'm quite happy using my 'little anolouge tea candles' in my headlight lenses, dunno why ppl wanna get these new digital type HID bulbs (can't see the point), what advantage do they have??
Click to expand...

The Osram and Halfrauds are not HID, therefore they are still legal.
 
Cheers for an interesting thread guys when I said converting to HID I meant replacing the Halogen lamps with Projector lamps. I already have headlamp washers and dont know if the levelling system I have on the halogen lamps would work or be sufficient for projector lamps or if it would need auto leveling installed? So if I bought some projector lenses would they just plug into the exsisting loom or is there modifications to make to the loom to make them work?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

xDParis64
Freelander 1 Converting from wasted spark to distributor (or Visa Versa)
Replies
0
Views
305
xDParis64
xDParis64
jimmacD
Back to the P38 house of pain!
2
Replies
21
Views
2K
Grrrrrr
Grrrrrr
ryan_1993
Understanding a few 1990s Land Rover Trim/Options for the CSW (Research)
Replies
11
Views
2K
Stevetheplant
S
richhemmings
Prospective owner - Hello!
Replies
6
Views
916
biketeacherdave
biketeacherdave
Goc3k
Discovery 1 SOLD 1997 300TDI manual D1, Winchester
Replies
16
Views
3K
Goc3k
Goc3k