colleauge of mine put a 110 over on the M4 at 70mph. got caught up in those funny tarmac rut things the lorries leave... doesnt understand landys either and overcompensated. over it went.

If you want to egsperiment use a forklift and lift it next to a brick wall. when it goes over it will balance on the wall... simple :D i would go with 40degrees as standard.

but im not worried too much, i got a cage :D

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when you roll em you get squashed too

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I've seen at least 20 landies or toyota 4x4s roll over in Tanzania on flat (ish for Africa) level roads caused by too much speed and a ****e driver.
Its what is known as an S pattern roll over.
 
Difficult to put a figure on, as you are unlikely to tip it over purely through the angle, you'll chicken out first. Usually it tips because it hits a bump or rabbit hole whilst at an extreme angle, especially if going too fast (at extreme angles 5 mph is too fast) If you look at most rolls on you-tube the actual angle wasn't that great, the motor bounced whilst at an angle.
The figure in the handbook keeps decreaseing as the have to be so careful to avoid geting sued, I think the current handbook says 35 degrees. I would expect a standard Defender to go to 45, but it wouldn't take much to tip it then.
Don't blame me if you try it and it tips!
 
We've all probably seen many cars, Rally cars, F1 cars, all makes of car roll. Mostly, ISTM, that it's to do with too much speed, over-confidence/incompetence and bad luck ... When a Landrover rolls it's mostl;y due to low speed/too steep an angle, which again could be down to over-confidence/incompetence.

In other words, **** all to do with the vehicle, all to do with the driver and what he's doing with it.
 
Rolling at speed is all about mooses allegedly:

Stuttgart - The Land Rover Defender has failed the so-called Moose test, tipping to the side in a swerve to avoid an obstacle on the road, Germany's auto-motor-sport magazine reports.
The test with the Defender 110 TD4 was carried out at a speed of 60 km/h.
Testers attributed the bad roadholding quality of the Defender to poor weight distribution and indirect steering, the magazine said.
Despite the safety deficit, Land Rover failed to offer an Electronic Stability Programme (ESP) and airbags for the Defender, the report said.
The Moose or Elk test was introduced in Sweden where a high number of collisions with elks have been registered. The test became famous when the first generation of the Mercedes A-Class failed the test and the company responded by introducing standard ESP in the small car.

There's always this solution:

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And the german's breaking the landy:

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I've seen at least 20 landies or toyota 4x4s roll over in Tanzania on flat (ish for Africa) level roads caused by too much speed and a ****e driver.
Its what is known as an S pattern roll over.

How do you recover it? Ive done that on dirt, the back starts slinding out, you compensate, it finds grip and then spins out the other way. Wouldent want it to happen on the road.
 
What you do is dont touch the brakes and run straight off the road.
If you try to compensate for the second slide then that is when it turns over.
I teach 4x4 driving in Africa and the Middle East and 4x4 rollovers are common on dirt tracks covered in slippery sand. You dont have to be going that fast to get a 4x4 on its side in this manner.
 

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