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Donkeys coming out this weekend, then chassis for blasting, so formulating my shopping list and because of brexit and delivery cost spikes to N. Ireland I want to order once.
Gurtys a 1975 109 6pot truck
My question for those of you that have travelled this road before is, after all your careful planning, what parts did you forget about, im concentrating on chassis, brakes, running gear, mounts etc atm.
list sofar, growing by the minute
front and rear shocks
Steering damper
poly bushes
Ball joints (all)
flexi brake hoses x3
brake line / tool & fittings
Full front wiring loom (altho I may create this)
service kit both diffs
U Bolts

Any helpful replies/advice gladly received,
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I replaced all axle oil seals and wheel bearings, too.
Swivel overhaul kits for front axle?
Set of brake shoes?
I also refreshed all bushes with poly bushes, but I think the opinion on here is that regular rubber bushes (if you can find good quality rubber ones) would generally be better and last longer. But I would expect them also be a lot more difficult to fit without a press.
U-bolts are tricky - there are several different sizes and shapes,..and quality.
 
I replaced all axle oil seals and wheel bearings, too.
Swivel overhaul kits for front axle?
Set of brake shoes?
I also refreshed all bushes with poly bushes, but I think the opinion on here is that regular rubber bushes (if you can find good quality rubber ones) would generally be better and last longer. But I would expect them also be a lot more difficult to fit without a press.
U-bolts are tricky - there are several different sizes and shapes,..and quality.

Swivels i'll be checking when I rip the front assy off, but think ill be needing them, and will check the brakes at the same time
Interesting about the bushes, will look into that, and wish I hadn't of had to cut off my u bolts but there were very few threads intact

Thanks, this is exactly the sort of thing im after, just remembered need brake chassis clips too
 
yea, what do you reckon of the bolt packs advertised, and what about finish, loads of u tubers electro plating their nuts ... and bolts :O
Dunno, I bought shed loads of stainless ones or ordered individual ones from craddocks as I went along. Some of the axle rebuild bolts are different lengths
 
No matter what, there will always be bits you've forgotten. I find it easiest to do a big paddocks or craddocks order, then get the individual bits I've missed from eBay. Yes you'll pay slightly more, but don't need to pay the hefty delivery charge, and you'll probably get them quicker too.

I'd recommend getting your head in the parts manual and anything you think you might need, order. Chances are you'll need them at some point, even if not immediately.
 
I found LR Direct (https://www.lrdirect.com) to be really quick, efficient and free delivery over £50, but you really need to know the part numbers (although the parts catalogue will solve that one). You get to choose the brand, which means it's easier to avoid Britpart. I had a bit of gripe with Paddock after they stitched me up on their loyalty points, and Craddock just seemed a bit slow.

But you will always find lots of little things you've forgotten to get, so ebay is really useful, too.

Bolts...yes, you'll need lots of those! I'd avoid the 'restoration packs' - they seem too focused on body panels, and usually for a very specific thing, like the seat box. I found it better to just buy the sizes you need from Spalding Fasteners, etc, via ebay. It's sometimes more difficult to know exact sizes you need, but https://www.lrworkshop.com/ can help, and Craddocks web site is also one of the best at actually specifying the bolt/nut/washer sizes. There are some special sizes that you'll find difficult to source by any method other than their part number, however.

I opted for bright zinc plated fixings in most cases. I avoided stainless as it can cause aluminium to corrode more quickly when in contact with it, and it's generally not as strong as steel, particularly where you need high tensile steel. But I seem to be in the minority, and lots of people seem to like the bling-factor that goes with stainless.
 
Don't forget the tin of copper anti seize past. You may well be the next bloke to take it apart.
I am lucky to live 13 miles from Craddocks and around 25 from Paddocks so not to much of an issue. Where in NI are you ? We used to have a house in Hollywood County Down.
PS. Steering relay !
 
No matter what, there will always be bits you've forgotten. I find it easiest to do a big paddocks or craddocks order, then get the individual bits I've missed from eBay. Yes you'll pay slightly more, but don't need to pay the hefty delivery charge, and you'll probably get them quicker too.

I'd recommend getting your head in the parts manual and anything you think you might need, order. Chances are you'll need them at some point, even if not immediately.
Cheers, it has become bedtime reading when the garage is too cold, will try one of the local LR places 1st, massive choice of 3 in N.Ireland lol, no doubt I will forget something, but this is helping :)

Might be an idea to replace all the exhaust fittings, much easier with the body off.

Col
Thanks, the exhaust is one of the few new things on the truck, it and the petrol tank, but will definitely give them the once over incase it was bodged ;)

I found LR Direct (https://www.lrdirect.com) to be really quick, efficient and free delivery over £50, but you really need to know the part numbers (although the parts catalogue will solve that one). You get to choose the brand, which means it's easier to avoid Britpart. I had a bit of gripe with Paddock after they stitched me up on their loyalty points, and Craddock just seemed a bit slow.

But you will always find lots of little things you've forgotten to get, so ebay is really useful, too.

Bolts...yes, you'll need lots of those! I'd avoid the 'restoration packs' - they seem too focused on body panels, and usually for a very specific thing, like the seat box. I found it better to just buy the sizes you need from Spalding Fasteners, etc, via ebay. It's sometimes more difficult to know exact sizes you need, but https://www.lrworkshop.com/ can help, and Craddocks web site is also one of the best at actually specifying the bolt/nut/washer sizes. There are some special sizes that you'll find difficult to source by any method other than their part number, however.

I opted for bright zinc plated fixings in most cases. I avoided stainless as it can cause aluminium to corrode more quickly when in contact with it, and it's generally not as strong as steel, particularly where you need high tensile steel. But I seem to be in the minority, and lots of people seem to like the bling-factor that goes with stainless.

Ok, thats more to think about, thanks specific bolts were melting my head lol, will check out Spalding hadn't thought about stainless, seen a few shear in my time not sure I want to go down that route, on my list to investigate, will have a juke at LRD, been perusing the other 2 but they keep deleting my basket which is annoying, thanks for that

Agree and I would do the clutch as well going by the pic....

Well funny story that ...The day I bought her in Bristol, the clutch release bearing failed, then after he'd fixed that, the clutch failed completely on a hill coming out of bristol, so back into the carpark, and the EX owner and his dad changed the clutch in the car park which was decent of them cause theyd been paid and all, this was 30 minutes after leaving them, so its one of the things that should be ok, its only driven from Bristol, up to Hereford to pick up a stove then thru wales over to Dublin then to sunny (hardly ever) Co. Down, the gearbox on the other hand has the usual jump out of gear issue, but not sure I have the fortitude to attempt it, may have to lean on a few friends :)

Don't forget the tin of copper anti seize past. You may well be the next bloke to take it apart.
I am lucky to live 13 miles from Craddocks and around 25 from Paddocks so not to much of an issue. Where in NI are you ? We used to have a house in Hollywood County Down.
PS. Steering relay !

copper anti seize hopefully ill be able to get from the motor factors in Ballynahinch along with thread lock, steering relay is not budging so it may be a casualty lol, gonna flip the chassis over and beat the living daylights out of it been hitting it with penetrating fluid everytime im passing it along with a few choice works... so when you coming back for a visit and have you got a large trailer lol, we're down the other end of Co. Down, right on the side of Slieve Croob, near Dromara if that makes any sense :)


Big thanks everyone for your input, i'm not a mechanic, not even close, I've driven a company car for 30 odd years, last car I worked at was a MK3 escort and a few xr4x4's in '85 ish, but I love Gurty as does my wife surprisingly, must be the Series effect, hopefully with the help of some skilled friends and the the LR community I can do right by her, my other big quandry is colour, she was blue, changed to Hammerite green (current) and recorded as green on the logbook, I like heritage green, but getting done to death atm, still thinking about it.

Cheers Karl and Durty Gurty
 
xr4x4's in '85 ish

Best car I ever had..bought a white accident damaged 86 Sierra XR4X4 rebuilt it...Lothian Borders Police were using them as unmarked in those days...amazing how everyone got out of your way on the M8 motorway...panda cars used to give me a thumbs up as well...lol
 
Best car I ever had..bought a white accident damaged 86 Sierra XR4X4 rebuilt it...Lothian Borders Police were using them as unmarked in those days...amazing how everyone got out of your way on the M8 motorway...panda cars used to give me a thumbs up as well...lol
I had 2, first was gun metal grey, upgraded to rally spec, but a sleeper, was an absolute weapon, and for a big heavy girl, embarrassed quite a few pocket rockets lol second was white and broke my heart lol
 
So here's my up to date list, I find it incredible given the depth of knowledge and dedication of LR bods, that there's not a list of bolts required per section for a rebuild, but slowly making my list, doesnt help that there were a lot of non std bolds and fixings on her, so cant use them for reference, just bracing myself to drop the engine out this morning, and feeling my age +++, thanks once again for taking the time to reply,

Ancillaries
Copper anti sieze
Thread lock
Brake flaring kit

Parts Required
front and rear shocks
Steering damper
Bushes - check poly/rubber
all Ball joints
brake pipe chassis clips
flexi hoses x3
copper ? brake pipe and fittings
Front wiring harness
Service kit both diffs
Axle U bolts
axle oil seals
front swivels
BOLTS BOLTS BOLTS

To check
Steering relay (possible)
Check fittings on exhaust
Check brake shoes, drums etc
Check steering rack
 
I find it incredible given the depth of knowledge and dedication of LR bods, that there's not a list of bolts required per section for a rebuild, but slowly making my list, doesnt help that there were a lot of non std bolds and fixings on her, so cant use them for reference

Yeah, I know what you mean. I was looking for a complete 'kit' when I started, but having now gone through the rebuild process, I kind of understand why there isn't. There are just so many, and you might not need to replace them all (although I did as many as I could). How far do you go - do you include bolts for engine and gearbox internals, too? And as you say, there are quite likely to be many non-standard fixings used in some places, although I've tried to revert to 'spec' wherever I have been able to.

Check steering rack
You won't find a rack! :D The steering box may well benefit from a rebuild. There are kits for overhauling them - getting all the ball bearings to stay in place can be very fiddly, though!
 
Yeah, I know what you mean. I was looking for a complete 'kit' when I started, but having now gone through the rebuild process, I kind of understand why there isn't. There are just so many, and you might not need to replace them all (although I did as many as I could). How far do you go - do you include bolts for engine and gearbox internals, too? And as you say, there are quite likely to be many non-standard fixings used in some places, although I've tried to revert to 'spec' wherever I have been able to.


You won't find a rack! :D The steering box may well benefit from a rebuild. There are kits for overhauling them - getting all the ball bearings to stay in place can be very fiddly, though!

Lol sorry reverting to Ford mode, yea steering box, who knew when you lay them down flat loads of oil comes out... I do now lol, just about to separate the Bell housing, coffee break honest guv
 

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