hello there, today i went for a bit of off roading, in the last part of it we went through a 2ft deep pool. just to remind you that i have a series 3 with a 2.4toyota. anyway, while i'm in the middle of the pool the engine just stopped working. smoke came into the cabin and it did start again, another land rover towed me out of the puddle. there we started to think of what went wrong. it was not long to find that the engine has sucked water in.
9i removed the cone filter from the turbo and found the lower part of the turbo filled with water. first thought was that i have damaged the engine permanently. we tried to start it again but the engine was seized. we tried to start it on the second gear while being towed, but when i remove the foot from the clutch it's like putting the hand brake on. thn we started moving the landy forward and backwards while the landy was on gear and the wheels started moving a bit. when the wheels moved approx. quorter of a turn i tried the started and it worked. it started turning the engine. eventually after a long period of using the started the engine started. black water and white smoke came out of the exhaust. but worked fine. white smoke continiued and increaed all the way home
9approx 10 min) then normal black smoke came out. i don't know if i did any damage, what should i do know? and what has exactly happened to make the engine seize then work again). thanks chris. btw i know a snorkel should have been fitted but are there any other suggestions to not make the water go over the engine every time?

Put simply, YOU CANNOT COMPRESS WATER!
Your cylinders were full of water and you have turned your engine over untill you got rid of it, so you could have done a number of things,
Bent valves, cracked the pistons, or more!
What most people do when they have sucked water in there engine is remove ther injectors or spark plugs and spin the engine over to remover the water then they refit them to start it.
If yours continues to smoke badly i think you may have to remove the cylinder head to find out what damage you have done,

a mate did the same going through a ford in his mercedes sprinter,all the conrods are bent and it's just been declared a total loss by his insurance company.

I did the same in a works van going through a flood years ago. Bent conrods. New engine job.

You've ****ed it! prob bent bits all over the place.
You should have not tried to restart it as soon as you suspected water in the engine
Remember the only thing that compresses water is a Black Hole.

Ps
If your luck you've may get away with a blown head gasket

clivees said:

Remember the only thing that compresses water is a Black Hole.

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Morning Clivees.

I thought Land Rovers are black holes - at least as far as money is concerned

I doubt the engine would have been damaged by trying to restart with the cylinders full of water, if any damage has been done then it almost certainly happened when the water was first sucked in while the engine was doing a few thousand rpm. He's lucky not to have broken part of the transmission trying to bump start a seized engine. It's bad luck and surprising that the engine sucked in water when it was only 2 ft deep though - I guess the intake is low down.

The Mad Hat Man said:

Morning Clivees.

I thought Land Rovers are black holes - at least as far as money is concerned

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Morning Daft or afternoon as it is now.
You fixed that cut down disco yet ?

fixing - the operative phrase - all the inner wing is now welded and all the floor except a plate over the sill - gotta do headlight box repair and fit noo battery tray next. then its paint, seam seal, underseal and waxoyl.

King ell did you get any steel with your rust?

funnily enuf - it werent that bad - but I am replacing the whole caboodle. Aint gonna do it twice.

Hello again guys, it has been a long time since last i posted something. since the last time i posted in this topic a lot of things have happened and lots of money has been spent

Well first of all i took my landy to the local ''official landrovers repair center'' which i do not think it was a really great idea because of the charges i had to pay. So anyways back on the problem. it resulted that i had a bent connecting rod on piston number one.(luckily and for the amount it was bent i didn't touch the bore.) fixed that then other problems began to pop up. first i had a new sump gasket leaking badly and i had to change it. then when everything was fixed and went from the mechanic to my house and turned it off, i looked under it to see if theres any more oil leaks and to my astonishment a whole flood of new coolant came down. :screaming_bug_eye_f i was so ****ed off after all the money i spent i didnt want more expenses, well the water pump was gone (don't know if it's a coincidence or if it was some mistake from the mechanic) i left the landy there for about two weeks without touching it, then i changed the water pump. i also added a snorkel(which i had bought the day after the accident).
Well now it's working alright but there are two issues which i am concerned about.
1. When i start the engine in mornings or other time when the engine is cold, white smoke comes out for a few time untill the engine warms up. i read some reviews about white smoke on cold days, but back here it's not cold as in england. right now the temperature is not less than 12 to 15 but there is a lot of humidity if that can effect. could there be something else that could cause this?
2. There is a ticking noise(was like this since i got it from he mechanic), it comes from the engine, it is steady on idle and increases with revs, and decreases again with revs. The mechanic told me it can be a clogged injector while a friend of mine told me that the timing is a bit advanced? What is your opinion and what should i do?

Thanks guys, i know i wrote a very long report but well, it's been a long times since i last wrote.
And by the way happy new year to all!
Thanks Chris.

The ticking might be due to incorrect valve clearences. I don't know much at all about Toyota engines - might be a good idea to get a workshop manual for the engine and follow the instructions for setting the timing and adjusting the valve clearances. Doing that shouldn't cost you anything apart from time and the manual. If there is still a problem it you could take all the injectors out and get them tested by a diesel engine specialist.

Propper knackared it doing the towing thing you are lucky really

yer and trying to compress water what does it take 2 make a snorkle a few hours or a day at most i reckon

fenby1976 said:

I doubt the engine would have been damaged by trying to restart with the cylinders full of water, if any damage has been done then it almost certainly happened when the water was first sucked in while the engine was doing a few thousand rpm. He's lucky not to have broken part of the transmission trying to bump start a seized engine. It's bad luck and surprising that the engine sucked in water when it was only 2 ft deep though - I guess the intake is low down.

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The "official" wading depth is only 20"

yea mabe 20 inches but depends where the intake is on his toyota landy hybrid and who done the conversion Jai

Hi again guys, well the intake is above the engine but with every big splash or going to through a puddle with some speed, and i open the bonnet everything is wet(even the bonnet). anyways i have been driving the landy for the past 4 days to work and every day a new problem surfaces. and i admit i am getting a bit ****ed off with it now lol. but today was the biggest one because i stopped half way to work and i had to walk.
Problems i had are:
Faulty headlights
Cutting fuses
bad smell inside resulted from bad turbo manifold gasket.
The worst one today: a fuel pipe from the pump slackened a bit and some pretty big bubbles of air were going in causing the van to first loose power, then to work rough, and the to not even giving me time to put it in gear before it turns off. replaced the pipe but noticed that small bubbles are also coming from the tank(pipe cracked somewhere ) try to replace it tomorrow.
I hope that next week will be better, i dont want to spend any more money on it.

I think I'd buy anopther little car for work and do a full strip and rebuild of the Landy/Toymota, or bite the bullet and get a new Landy ... all of would depend on your situation, the value of it as is, value/cost of it being repaired, and what cash is available for repairs/replacements ...

Seems you've learned a costly lesson ...