and with a reasuring go anywhere diesel beat of the engine, then the V8 comes along with lots of throttle,

Correct, nathan..

thats not cos you need the power it's cos it sounds awesome.. get a V8 and a real smile or a derv and a smug grin, you choose..
 
Derv engine going to have much better low down grunt.

Someone mentioned autos off road, autos off road are good, a lot of challange cars have them. I myself would probably always pick the manual box, but the autos are pretty damn good offroad, not going to stall it - you can still lock it in 1 and 2 for rock crawling etc... low box, locked in 1st on an auto is pretty damn good.
 
Derv engine going to have much better low down grunt.

Someone mentioned autos off road, autos off road are good, a lot of challange cars have them. I myself would probably always pick the manual box, but the autos are pretty damn good offroad, not going to stall it - you can still lock it in 1 and 2 for rock crawling etc... low box, locked in 1st on an auto is pretty damn good.

as I discovered fairly recently though even locked in low 1st an auto box will not slow a car anywhere near as well as the manual.. so hill descent is a little more challenging.
 
lol

I just brought a V8 and its the best thing ever done i've been in my friends 300tdi also a 2.5td 110 and my v8 is better just because of the noise, also went down a land in low range 3rd and the power was amazing much better than any old oily noisy diesel
 

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