podgeyboy · Jun 16, 2023

How about this then I purchased my P38A about 4 months ago now apart from the usual problems the first thing I checked to see if my car was ULEZ compliant and surprise surprise it was .I could use it in town.now bearing in mind it's a 2001 I was overjoyed .I use the car for hospital appointments every three weeks .
A year ago or so my kids bought me a personal plate which I waited patiently to put on my car .I changed the plate a few weeks back and now it's not ULEZ compliant because I changed the plate .I spoke to some person who gave me a load of bull as far as I'm concerned.so now I have a car that I can't use now in town but these people told me I could .how so ????

Total F$&+()@ Losers

saxavordian · Jun 16, 2023

Best tip is drive backwards for one-way traffic flow and speed cameras. That way the exhaust not emitting from you but next car ahead

Nodge68 · Jun 16, 2023

I've read about this before. It's best not to mess with anything where ULEZ is concerned, as it's very easy to loose the entitlement, even though it shouldn't for a reg no change.
I've got a Freelander i6 which is ULEZ compliant, which will form part of the sales pitch when I pass it on.

Hippo · Jun 19, 2023

If yer change the plate back does it become compliant again?

landowner · Aug 31, 2023

Seeing as the zone covers Heathrow and the Thames where it flows through the zone
Why aren't the most polluting engines charged as well as cars etc

I refer to jet engines and dirty boat / ship engines pumping out far more crap than modern cars do
I think the charge is more to do with generating revenue rather than cleaning up the air

Hippo · Sep 1, 2023

The money generated will go down as more peeps move to newer compliant cars. The theory of it being a money generation fing dun't work. Its set to fail financially.

Nodge68 · Sep 1, 2023

I drove into the newly expanded ULEZ zone on Monday, beating the introduction time by hours. I drove out again on Thursday after being parked in a hotel car park for the duration, but haven't seen a charge applied to my newly created ULEZ account yet, so maybe they don't charge for outgoing traffic? I did

--ped-- · Sep 1, 2023

Nodge68 said:
I drove into the newly expanded ULEZ zone on Monday, beating the introduction time by hours. I drove out again on Thursday after being parked in a hotel car park for the duration, but haven't seen a charge applied to my newly created ULEZ account yet, so maybe they don't charge for outgoing traffic? I did

hopefully all the cameras you passed had been converted to scrap by those who object to the robbing scheme

bankz5152 · Sep 1, 2023

Give it a few weeks.

My VNT turbo D2 was ULEZ compliant for 3 months due to a private plate change.

If the original plate is exempt the car is exempt.

Unfortunately you will just have to fight the fines.

Dippypud · Oct 7, 2023

--ped-- said:
hopefully all the cameras you passed had been converted to scrap by those who object to the robbing scheme

Anaconda · Oct 7, 2023

Hippo said:
The money generated will go down as more peeps move to newer compliant cars. The theory of it being a money generation fing dun't work. Its set to fail financially.

The cameras are already set up for pay per mile, apparently.

Nodge68 · Oct 8, 2023

Anaconda said:
The cameras are already set up for pay per mile, apparently.

It doesn't need camera's for pay per mile. Every car with a valid MOT has the mileage recovered at the time of the test, so that's where the data can come from.
There needs to be a compulsory box on the V5 for the current mileage at change of owner, new cars would need an annual mileage check before they need an MOT. There shouldn't be a need for anything else needed to charge drivers per mile. They use a similar system in New Zealand which works fine.

Anaconda · Oct 8, 2023

Nodge68 said:
It doesn't need camera's for pay per mile. Every car with a valid MOT has the mileage recovered at the time of the test, so that's where the data can come from.
There needs to be a compulsory box on the V5 for the current mileage at change of owner, new cars would need an annual mileage check before they need an MOT. There shouldn't be a need for anything else needed to charge drivers per mile. They use a similar system in New Zealand which works fine.

Be a lot of mileage correction going on!
I doubt it will be as simple as that, with different rates at different times and roads.

Turboman · Oct 8, 2023

Nodge68 said:
It doesn't need camera's for pay per mile. Every car with a valid MOT has the mileage recovered at the time of the test, so that's where the data can come from.
There needs to be a compulsory box on the V5 for the current mileage at change of owner, new cars would need an annual mileage check before they need an MOT. There shouldn't be a need for anything else needed to charge drivers per mile. They use a similar system in New Zealand which works fine.

Unfortunately, the UK Govt. are keener on real time snooping than the NZ Govt.

Nodge68 · Oct 8, 2023

Anaconda said:
Be a lot of mileage correction going on!
I doubt it will be as simple as that, with different rates at different times and roads.

It's very difficult to manipulate the miles on a modern vehicle, and the mileage records at the DVLA would be even harder to fudge.

You're right though, any UK government will make a system that's so complicated that it's all but impossible to introduce.

Nodge68 · Oct 8, 2023

Turboman said:
Unfortunately, the UK Govt. are keener on real time snooping than the NZ Govt.

It'll probably be black boxes for all vehicles, like new drivers have in there cars now.

Turboman · Oct 8, 2023

Nodge68 said:
It'll probably be black boxes for all vehicles, like new drivers have in there cars now.

That is exactly the kind of thing I worry about.

Nodge68 · Oct 9, 2023

Turboman said:
That is exactly the kind of thing I worry about.

I'm not overly bothered by a black box myself, especially if the inclusion of such a device reduces insurance and RFL costs.

Montyjohn · Oct 10, 2023

podgeyboy said:
How about this then I purchased my P38A about 4 months ago now apart from the usual problems the first thing I checked to see if my car was ULEZ compliant and surprise surprise it was .I could use it in town.now bearing in mind it's a 2001 I was overjoyed .I use the car for hospital appointments every three weeks .
A year ago or so my kids bought me a personal plate which I waited patiently to put on my car .I changed the plate a few weeks back and now it's not ULEZ compliant because I changed the plate .I spoke to some person who gave me a load of bull as far as I'm concerned.so now I have a car that I can't use now in town but these people told me I could .how so ????

Total F$&+()@ Losers

If it's the 4.0 then it's ULEZ compliant.
The 4.6's aren't.
However, because the P38's are only Euro2 compliant (and not Euro4) you have to write to Land Rover and ask for a Certificate of Conformity. If it's the 4.0, this should demonstrate that the NOx is less than 0.08g/km. I think the 4.0 is 0.051g/km from memory.

You then send this CoC to TFL and they change it in their database.

boguing · Oct 11, 2023

Nodge68 said:
I'm not overly bothered by a black box myself, especially if the inclusion of such a device reduces insurance and RFL costs.

Reduced insurance premiums - once everyone has to have one? I think not!

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