I agree with the need for caution but I've overcome my fear a little and think that so long as I am rigged right and that they have 100% understood that they bear ultimate responsibility and taken the time to sign a waiver form then it should be golden, waiver is worthless but worth it's weight in gold by calming everyone down and slowing things down to the point where they are reading and understanding the risks involved with recovery.
But dash cams, action cameras like the GoPro etc, and camera phones are the way to go when pinning down liability to the dumb twunt in a ditch
Fixeded it, 7/8th for 6.5T, you can use the 5/8th shackles as they are rated for 3.25T but I consider that a static load and not a dynamic load as you would find towing or in a recovery situation, nothing worse than a bending a shackle pin or stretching it to the point where it won't come undone again and you're forced to cut the tow rope in order to get it off the vehicle.You got your 8ths and Tons mixed up there.
If someone here goes into a ditch here its usually call all the emergency services
15ft drop off the banking onto the shore which usually happens 4/5 times a year
It would be far easier to attach some ground chain & mooring rope to the motor & drag it out to use as a mooring lol
bluedog333
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I’ve always seen recovery straps (strops) and tow ropes as two different accessories altogether. I’d be happy to ‘recover’ someone stuck on slippery ice/snow/mud with a strop, but for actual towing on normal road I believe the tow rope will be better given it’s greater elasticity to cushion out the invariable lateral shocks when stopping/starting and changing direction etc.
Just my opinion though .
Just my opinion though .
neilly
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Glad to hear you fixed it..LOL
With the FOS designed in, if you get close to bending even a 3.25T shackle you have done something wrong IMO, during a roadside recovery which is what @doriz is pertaining to, and need to rethink your approach. As said , a lot of cars will not accept a larger shackle in the small screw in tow hooks supplied.
For heavier "off road" recoveries call the recovery boyos and offer a lift to civilisation.
P&P situation recoveries are a different thing altogether.
Cheers
It's not that hard, 3.25T isn't very much at all when you all things are considered, vehicle weights, rolling resistance, slopes and angles and then forces applied from recovery vehicle.
But it does depend on what type of recovery you are initiating and the conditions, of course.
neilly
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What, no ditches on the side of the roads you drive? As you say, context matters and ditches are a very real and very common roadside hazard on every road except the ones that you drive it seems.The context as stated was a roadside recovery.....
Cheers
just ask @ratty
neilly
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You could have offered a lift to the nearest place of safety with a warm cuppa, hardly doing nothing.
. Cheers
doriz
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You could have offered a lift to the nearest place of safety with a warm cuppa, hardly doing nothing.
Cheers
I got the impression this chap wanted it back on the road in order to pretend to his boss nothing had happened, a cuppa wouldn't cut it.
bluedog333
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Have you got recovery points on the Landy? Jate rings, recovery eyes, tow ball etc? If so, get yourself a decent strop and some shackles you tight git!
anyone volunteering to put eyes on the end of some rope for me?
bluedog333
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You need some parcel tape to do it properly.anyone volunteering to put eyes on the end of some rope for me?
neilly
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anyone volunteering to put eyes on the end of some rope for me?
You really need the blue stuff, the blue makes it strongererereer.
Honest.
Cheers
I have a pro comp strap too which has a silly high breaking strain used it to pull a lorry out when stuck on site (wiff a digger). That strap has a bit of "give" to it as to not over load recovery points. And is long enough to be used off road and doubled up ok on road. I used it to drag mostly German RWD cars outta the snow when I had the classic.
I wouldn't touch em. Too much force in play. There's a very grim vid I think from south America where a jeep snaps one, it goes to through the cab and takes the drivers jaw off. Nasty.
