Nodge68 · Dec 17, 2018

Karlos28 said:
I anticipate diesel prices will sky rocket soon making the MP£ a very different comparison!

We thought this when looking for a replacement for our Ford Kuga. We had ordered a Vauxhall Grandland X, but Vauxhall changed the spec for the 2019 model of the vehicle we ordered, making it not such a good deal. So now we've ordered a Mazda CX5 with a petrol engine

. This should give the same cost per mile as our current Kuga.

Karlos28 · Dec 17, 2018

Yeah, problem with the Freelander is; the k series sounds like a bit of hard work, and the V6 is a bit thirsty! Interesting to see the k series is quicker (0-60) and only a few less mpg than the td4 (this is using the auto trader stats..)

Hippo · Dec 18, 2018

Karlos28 said:
Then again, I anticipate diesel prices will sky rocket soon making the MP£ a very different comparison!

If diesel goes up nearly everything physical yer buy will go up. It won't happen. Theres a lot of worry about diesel. Trucks use it. It will be around for some time.

Karlos28 · Dec 18, 2018

Good point well made, plus it's only a ~£2000 car so compared to my current monthly spending on a car, I will still be up!

A fella at work has just bought a 1.8 as it happens, he got the 'milenium' edition pre facelift, but he only pays £200 tax. £315 isn't a million miles out split over the 12months though.

Hippo · Dec 18, 2018

Road tax does vary across engines and years so it's worth consifering. Later years tend to cost more.

Juzza6720 · Dec 18, 2018

Hippo said:
Road tax does vary across engines and years so it's worth consifering. Later years tend to cost more.

Yes the 06 plate td4's have two tax brackets, the earlier ones are about £315 and the later ones after around the end of March are something like £500 so consider that too if you're looking at FL1's of that age.

Karlos28 · Dec 18, 2018

I did notice this, I think it's just the 06 years that enjoy £500/year tax.

Nodge68 · Dec 18, 2018

Karlos28 said:
A fella at work has just bought a 1.8 as it happens, he got the 'milenium' edition pre facelift, but he only pays £200 tax.

The wife's second Freelander was a 1.8 50th edition. That was fully loaded with options. Definitely a very nice vehicle to own, and cheap too.

Karlos28 · Dec 18, 2018

Yeah there are a surprising number of nice options available.

Insurance is also surprisingly expensive, about the same as the 1 series!

Karlos28 · Dec 18, 2018

This was the button I was asking about, unknown the left is PDC, but what's on the right?

marjon · Dec 18, 2018

Looks very much like the cruise control “on” symbol in our 322.

But hey never know what lr did in the fl

J

Nodge68 · Dec 18, 2018

Karlos28 said:
Insurance is also surprisingly expensive, about the same as the 1 series!

My 2001 V6 was about £100 PA cheaper to insure than my current TD4.

Nodge68 · Dec 18, 2018

Karlos28 said:
This was the button I was asking about, unknown the left is PDC, but what's on the right?

That's the CC master switch. CC was an option, but only in conjunction with the auto box.

Karlos28 · Dec 18, 2018

That also makes the miles/£ cheaper... In a way..? Haha I say it's expensive, it's still only 400/yr which I can't imagine is any cheaper.

Interesting, wonder if it's just like a speed hold kind of off/on system...?

marjon · Dec 18, 2018

@Karlos28 ^^^^^^^ it’s up there look 2 posts agree

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Nodge68 · Dec 18, 2018

Karlos28 said:
That also makes the miles/£ cheaper... In a way..? Haha I say it's expensive, it's still only 400/yr which I can't imagine is any cheaper

My current TD4 SE auto on an 05 costs £365 PA. My previous 01 V6 ES cost £274 PA to insure.

Karlos28 said:
Interesting, wonder if it's just like a speed hold kind of off/on system...?

The CC is armed by turning on the CC master switch. This boots up the CC ECU (under the driver's seat), allowing it to take speed signals from the ABS ECU and feed any necessary corrections to the engine ECU. There are paddles on the steering wheel which tell the CC ECU to set and restore speeds.

The CC master switch can be left active all the time. Any restore information is cleared when the master switch is off, or the ignition is switched off.

marjon · Dec 18, 2018

Same logic in the 322 control.

But I would say be careful if you push the “restore” if your present speed differs greatly from you last preset.
Ours seems to think it needs to change down 4 gears and get to the set point as if it was on a drag strip

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Similar results shown when towing sometimes too. So try it so you get used to it’s reactions.
Get to know it and enjoy

J

Karlos28 · Dec 18, 2018

Ah cool, I didn't notice any steering wheel switches, I'm guesing there would have been some for the stereo?
CC would be nice, don't have it now. But I do have a limiter..

Nodge68 · Dec 18, 2018

Karlos28 said:
I didn't notice any steering wheel switches,

The CC set/ res switches are on the right of the steering wheel. The audio controls are on the left of the steering wheel.

Karlos28 said:
I'm guesing there would have been some for the stereo?

Yes. Standard on all but the lowest spec FL1

Karlos28 said:
CC would be nice, don't have it now. But I do have a limiter.

I like CC and use it all the time. Radar guided CC is even better to use, especially on the motorway. No FL1 has radar CC though, so don't go looking for that.

Karlos28 · Dec 18, 2018

Haha I may be looking for a while!

To be honest, my grand plan is to sell the BMW and the midget, buy a Freelander workhorse and then an XK8 for any trips/weekends away. So the Jag will be the only one that CC would be really handy!

Good job I like tinkering with cars! (which I have missed with the BM and hated paying them a fortune to service..). Although hopefully they won't both break at the same time...

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