Batface
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Don't know if its been discussed?
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Don't know if its been discussed?
Batface
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With the government in it's current state I would think anything is possible, they'll be thinking of all the money they can rake in, we're all well aware they want to take away our freedom and our steak
ER1C
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Current state ?With the government in it's current state I would think anything is possible, they'll be thinking of all the money they can rake in, we're all well aware they want to take away our freedom and our steak
Why do they want our freedom again ? I feel quite free here ? maybe a little underpaid and over taxed.
Batface
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Just something I overheard from the world economic forum.
Batface
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Whether the chap is desperate for views or not, the government survey is real and if they are trying to bring in more stringent rules it might be of concern, I wouldn't want mine on a Q plate because I had a galvanised chassis replacement and then have to pay ved.
ER1C
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Of course they are.... there are a lot of folk buying older vehicles and trying to mod them and make them suitable for modern /other use....which isn't what the intention of heritage was. Heritage = having a classic, loving the classic, keeping the classic.
If you had a old Range Rover and bob tailed it you must appreciate its no longer the car it was. Or one I saw recently were some old VW's which were converted to buggys and claiming to be MOT/Tax exempt, they are still on ebay and totally fall foul of existing legislation.
I mean the fact the video guys says "call for evidence" is a major red flag... Do me a favour.
This call for evidence explains the current policies used for identifying such vehicles and the registration processes for them, which have been in place for many years.
We are seeking your expert knowledge about whether these policies need updating, in particular to reflect evolving technologies that support the restoration and rebuilding of vehicles, along with vehicles that are being converted to electric. We also want to know if you have any suggestions based on your knowledge and expertise in this area that may assist in improving the registration process for these vehicles.
Does any of the above sound un-reasonable ?
ER1C
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Major modifications is that.... Major..... I would think replacing a rear cross member with same dimensions but 2mm thicker would not be major tbh. The goal is to make it last not change the job/function.
I have a 43 year old vehicle and had the chassis fixed and front section replaced. The welder asked if I wanted the rear frame cutting and replacing with a plate I could remove for future easy engine removal. I opted not to as I didnt want to deviate from the original spec. I wish I had now TBH as its a minor change and one nobody will ever be able to see. (most have done the same as it saves hours in an engine removal)
ER1C
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If your goal is to keep a historic vehicle I wouldn't worry.... tbh there is that much variation and inconsistency in the way rules are applied you will be fine. When a group of us registered Year 81 vehicles for historic some were passed, others were rejected, some had odd dates on the V5 so were rejected, some were imported so had odder dates. At the end of the day they were all perfectly valid vehicles for the 40 year rule and got through in the end.
No chassis/physical check on any of them either. I think you have to keep that in mind.... even if they do iron fist OTT enforce it the chances of getting someone with the knowledge over more than a handful of chassis/equipment its an impossible task. I could do a Defender but not modern and not early series.
Batface
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Must watch, watch until end, etc etc, typical of todays hype everything up world we live in.
Batface
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20 years ago it probably wasn't possible in 10 years it would be viable?I didn't say it wasn't possiblei said not viable
I should imagine because of the latest fad of sticking an EV motor in a classic has bought this all about.
I very much doubt all these conversions are fitted within the current rules, same with the BMW and V8 conversions in Defenders.
Ok people have been quietly doing swaps for years but now it's more mainstream and out in the open, oh and big money to be made.
I very much doubt all these conversions are fitted within the current rules, same with the BMW and V8 conversions in Defenders.
Ok people have been quietly doing swaps for years but now it's more mainstream and out in the open, oh and big money to be made.
