gold rover
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I know I'm going to sound grumpy on this response and part of me is but this question has been asked and answered time and time again. So as a little heads up to save people having to say it all over again, have this particular use of the search bar, on me https://www.landyzone.co.uk/search/1668644/?q=L322+known+faults&o=relevance. Please enjoy. 
gold rover
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That's what I took it as but you're right, it might not be an L322 he wants. But even if it's one of the others, the same sentiment applies. Search bar is your friend
The Vogue name was adorned to each 'Flavour' of Range Rover from the Classics in 1988 (Vogue SE), the P38 in the post 99MY era (Vogue), the early L322's of the top spec out-of-the-box was the Vogue, the later L322's were known as the Vogue and Vogue SE....
So which are you looking for?
Classic, P38, early L322 (2002-2005) or later L322 (2006 to 2012)...??
So which are you looking for?
Classic, P38, early L322 (2002-2005) or later L322 (2006 to 2012)...??
myfirstl322
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It will be the L322 of course, given he's a newbie
You could opt for the TD6 with 25mpg at best and 0-60mph in 15 seconds.
OR, you could opt for the 4.4 V8......8 point 'summit' to 60 and not much worse on mpg.
Both as long lived lived as each other, but you will be guaranteed a place in heaven if you plump for the delectable V8.
If you do miles, buy an LPG converted, mine was as cheap as a Vectra 1.8 to run.
Do you like 4500 rpm or 6500rpm?
God...av got to get me another one!!!
You could opt for the TD6 with 25mpg at best and 0-60mph in 15 seconds.
OR, you could opt for the 4.4 V8......8 point 'summit' to 60 and not much worse on mpg.
Both as long lived lived as each other, but you will be guaranteed a place in heaven if you plump for the delectable V8.
If you do miles, buy an LPG converted, mine was as cheap as a Vectra 1.8 to run.
Do you like 4500 rpm or 6500rpm?
God...av got to get me another one!!!
myfirstl322
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I'm young enough to have necessitated an immediate 'hosing down' of the interior in an original, Money no option it would be a 70 but only in the finest of condition.
Just trying to work out if the original grille slats would pass enough air on the L322?
Just trying to work out if the original grille slats would pass enough air on the L322?
norseman
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An informed newbie will of course be looking at the classic after reading about all the crap that came after 1994.
+1
gold rover
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An informed newbie, will be running for the hills, shouting over their shoulder that we're all nuts, pre and post 1994An informed newbie will of course be looking at the classic after reading about all the crap that came after 1994.
Pluribus
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Ok, a bit out of my depth here lol. I wasnt aware there were so many! I just wanted to upgrade from my freelander...
gold rover
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On that note , why a Vogue? Vogue is a trim, not a model. All Range Rovers come in a variety of trims. Maybe a little research to decide which Range Rover and which trim, would help.
There are other sites available with even more info but wiki is a starting place https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_Rover
Oh Yes.....
The Classic:
The P38:
The early L322:
The 2006-2011 L322:
The later L322:
The latest L405:
Choose your flavour!
Pluribus
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I went into the local LR dealers to have a look at their used rangies and there was a vogue at the back of the lot, private plate so not sure what year it actually is, it seemed relatively new - within the last 5-8 years anyway. It didnt say anything like L322 on the back, just Vogue. I couldnt get inside them as the sales staff were only interested in flogging the new discos and evoques.
Pluribus
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Due to budget, it will be the early L322, unless I can find a semi decent 2006-11 for under 6k.
myfirstl322
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I may get an L405, at least to throw some retro chuckies on
gold rover
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Like I said a little research will clear it all up for you. The vehicle will say Range Rover on the bonnet and it's trim level (sometimes) at the rear. Even ignoring the fact that you are already confused about what it is you want to buy. Anyone looking to buy any 'new' vehicle should do the research, so they know what they want and more importantly why. Walking in to a garage selling Range Rovers saying, "I want a Vogue" is akin to walking in to a Ford garage saying "I want a zetec". You will leave the poor salesperson wondering which model you want.
Then it comes back to why Vogue, what if you could get a newer RR with a different trim?
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martynv8
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For 6k you may find an early L322, at what condition on that budget is dubious. Don't forget to set some cash aside for your own diagnostic software & the inevitable 1st year repairs. If you can't do your own repairs these can empty your pockets pretty quickly. On that budget maybe your better looking at later P38's
gold rover
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Not forgetting the gearbox, if it hasn't been done. Which at under 6k, unless it's one of the first it probably won't have and a lot of the first are now needing their second gearbox. I've said it before but it deserves saying again, just because they are now comparatively cheap to buy does not mean they are cheap to run/repair. The early ones might be prosecco to buy but they still have champagne tastes.
@Pluribus Ref the 5-8 year old one you saw at dealers, you will pay a lot more than 6k for one in that age range. You're looking pre 2006. However, there are some nice ones out there but those of us who have them and look after them, regardless of cost/pain/time/effort, tend to be keeping them. The people getting rid, usually do so when maintenance costs get too high and they've come to their senses and stopped before going bankrupt.
Which comes back to your original post, ref things to look out for (apart from the ongoing costs
). Take a search around for known faults, there are threads and threads and threads on them , already posted on this site and hundreds more on other sites.If all the above sounds a little negative just remember those of us who have a Range Rover, whichever designation, love them and believe they are worth the heartache
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Pluribus
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Hi Everyone.
Please forgive my ignorance here. I currently drive a freelander (and have done for nearly a decade) and there are only a few different ones out there to choose from. I wrongly assumed the Range Rover Vogue was a particular vehicle, not a range of vehicles.
Why do I want a "vogue"? I drove one a couple of times at a previous job and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was a pool car so all I did was pick up the keys and drive it, I have no idea what it actually was. Much like the one at the LR dealer, all it said was Range Rover and Vogue on the back. It also had private plates like all the other pool cars, so I dont know what year that was either.
Maintenance is not an issue as I can either do it myself or get the local LR specialist to do it for me. They do everything on my freebie so I trust them. Servicing expense is also not a problem, but I dont have a lot to spend on initial outlay purchase price, hence looking for one in the £5-6k range. I have no intention of buying one from a dealer as - despite me telling them my absolute maximum budget and that I was looking for petrol only - they sent me away with a diesel price list where the cheapest was over 40k... and they kept trying to flog me a new defender even after I told them in no uncertain terms that I was not interested. I run my own business and am fairly comfortable, but I cant drop 40k on a car...
If I have to buy a slightly knackered one and spend several months doing it up then so be it, I will just keep my freebie a bit longer while the work is done.
I completely understand when you say you are passionate about your Rangies, I honestly never thought I'd be considering upgrading my freebie to anything else - hell, I've plowed enough money into her to buy a decent Range Rover anyway - but I think its now time to get a more refined grown up car.
Please forgive my ignorance here. I currently drive a freelander (and have done for nearly a decade) and there are only a few different ones out there to choose from. I wrongly assumed the Range Rover Vogue was a particular vehicle, not a range of vehicles.
Why do I want a "vogue"? I drove one a couple of times at a previous job and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was a pool car so all I did was pick up the keys and drive it, I have no idea what it actually was. Much like the one at the LR dealer, all it said was Range Rover and Vogue on the back. It also had private plates like all the other pool cars, so I dont know what year that was either.
Maintenance is not an issue as I can either do it myself or get the local LR specialist to do it for me. They do everything on my freebie so I trust them. Servicing expense is also not a problem, but I dont have a lot to spend on initial outlay purchase price, hence looking for one in the £5-6k range. I have no intention of buying one from a dealer as - despite me telling them my absolute maximum budget and that I was looking for petrol only - they sent me away with a diesel price list where the cheapest was over 40k... and they kept trying to flog me a new defender even after I told them in no uncertain terms that I was not interested. I run my own business and am fairly comfortable, but I cant drop 40k on a car...
If I have to buy a slightly knackered one and spend several months doing it up then so be it, I will just keep my freebie a bit longer while the work is done.
I completely understand when you say you are passionate about your Rangies, I honestly never thought I'd be considering upgrading my freebie to anything else - hell, I've plowed enough money into her to buy a decent Range Rover anyway - but I think its now time to get a more refined grown up car.
