lightning

lightning

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I saw a Defender parked locally, obviously stolen and hidden, and reported it.
Police took reg number etc and said they would deal with it.
The Defender did not move and the thief eventually came back for it. Fortunately he was later arrested for something else and it was found in his garden.
So this time the owner got it back. He'd only bought it two weeks previously from a local LR specialist.
 
Basically they are not interested, you would have got better response if you said you caught a 90yrold lady stealing a yoghurt from your local shop.
There would have been four patrol cars, 8 officers and a meat wagon turn up instantly :D
 
I wonder if this sort of thing is database failure?

After all its the work of a moment for them to punch in reg and if it flags up stolen it's simple to recover.

Unless they fitted a tracker to see where it ended up so they can make an actual arrest? After all it would have been left by the thieves to see if it had one fitted.

The police would probably want to keep that quiet.
 
Listen, when we gonna stop kidding our selves the police don't give a **** and are basically useless, they don't want the hassle .just make it as difficult as you can for them, when I had mine took I phones them and they said ok well look into and gave me a crime number, I called a couple of days later with a tip off of where it was and phoned again, I was asked who I reported it to I gave the crime number and was told it's not been looked into as yet, I told them my tip off and still nothing happened, I went myself with some back up and got it. 6 days later they called to say they think they've found it, I said where and they gave my address,,huh fooling comedians,
 
blue beasty said:
I wonder if this sort of thing is database failure?

After all its the work of a moment for them to punch in reg and if it flags up stolen it's simple to recover.
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That should be the case.
However it doesn't seem to work quite like that in practice. Last week in the local paper there was a story about a car lying on its back on the verge of a main road.
The police are aware, and have put blue and white tapes around it.
But apparently it cant be removed, as they cant trace the owner?
Would have thought it should be open and shut off the various databases, surely it must have been either stolen, dumped, or left after an accident?
 
I wonder why the Police don't appear to put a priority on Land Rover thefts.
After all, it's crime in the same way as vandalism or shoplifting.
 
OT - A petrol station cash point got robbed next door to a mates house. He witnessed the whole thing, gave registrations and descriptions and the police reports said something completely different interestingly they did another cashpoint in Middlesex after.
Everytime I get up and return from work the first thing I do is see if the Fender is still stere, sad really.
 
It's one of the reasons I don't want skytag etc.

If my Landy goes missing I want to know exactly where it is and I'm more than happy to go and pick it up o_O
 
Turboman said:
That should be the case.
However it doesn't seem to work quite like that in practice. Last week in the local paper there was a story about a car lying on its back on the verge of a main road.
The police are aware, and have put blue and white tapes around it.
But apparently it cant be removed, as they cant trace the owner?
Would have thought it should be open and shut off the various databases, surely it must have been either stolen, dumped, or left after an accident?
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If the vehicle is not causing an obstruction, then it is not their responsibility. The blue/white tape is merely to inform the public that it has already been reported, and there is no need for another 78 people to call in about it. If all such cars were lifted and stored then the police budget would be even further stretched than it already is.

lightning said:
I wonder why the Police don't appear to put a priority on Land Rover thefts.
After all, it's crime in the same way as vandalism or shoplifting.
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In the wider scope of things, car-theft (yes...even landys) is pretty low priority, in exactly the same way as vandalism and shoplifting. Like it or not, the average plod does not have a spare 5 hours to go chasing around after every non-violent, non-life-threatening crime - esp when the Insurance companies are the ones taking the hit.
 
Old lady mugged at knife point while cop guards empty car.

That's an alternative headline. Cops are a finite resource, and thanks to public and government demands there are less of them around than ever.. Of course we could have a cop on every street corner, dealing with every little thing, then we complain about 80% income tax and a police state.

It is not unusual for a random shift in a random station to start with dozens of outstanding jobs, of varying priorities. Sitting next to an abandoned motor for 3 hours awaiting recovery is likely graded as somewhat lest than urgent, maybe not even priority. There are around 125,000 police in total for the UK. Take off the senior officers, the specialists, those on leave, those off sick, those in court, those dealing with other crimes, those dealing with the inevitable paperwork*, and of course those that are not actually on shift at any given time and you have nobody left to guard a car.

*If you think you spend a lot of time on hold to Sky, BT, or the local pizza shop, try calling CPS, 2 hours on hold is distressingly common.

lightning said:
I wonder why the Police don't appear to put a priority on Land Rover thefts.
After all, it's crime in the same way as vandalism or shoplifting.
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Because priorities. Where does Land Rover fit amongst rape, knife crime, burglary, ford thefts, drug use, drug dealing, interfering with a corpse, vauxhall thefts, and a couple of thousand other offences? Around 22% of crime involves violence, so thats almost a quarter of crimes any reasonable person would suggest are more important than the average vehicle theft, regardless of make.
 
Seffy said:
Old lady mugged at knife point while cop guards empty car.

That's an alternative headline. Cops are a finite resource, and thanks to public and government demands there are less of them around than ever.. Of course we could have a cop on every street corner, dealing with every little thing, then we complain about 80% income tax and a police state.

It is not unusual for a random shift in a random station to start with dozens of outstanding jobs, of varying priorities. Sitting next to an abandoned motor for 3 hours awaiting recovery is likely graded as somewhat lest than urgent, maybe not even priority. There are around 125,000 police in total for the UK. Take off the senior officers, the specialists, those on leave, those off sick, those in court, those dealing with other crimes, those dealing with the inevitable paperwork*, and of course those that are not actually on shift at any given time and you have nobody left to guard a car.

*If you think you spend a lot of time on hold to Sky, BT, or the local pizza shop, try calling CPS, 2 hours on hold is distressingly common.


Because priorities. Where does Land Rover fit amongst rape, knife crime, burglary, ford thefts, drug use, drug dealing, interfering with a corpse, vauxhall thefts, and a couple of thousand other offences? Around 22% of crime involves violence, so thats almost a quarter of crimes any reasonable person would suggest are more important than the average vehicle theft, regardless of make.
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Yeah right, last week the fookers were hammering on my sister in laws door because she'd allegedly driven off a forecourt without paying for £10 of unleaded. Scared her sh1tless. She had paid and had bank statement to prove. If the garage reported it then the investigation should have started there, upon where they'd have found the evidence of her paying but obviously in this instance they were complacent and only interested in making an easy charge. They were there the next day, 26 hours after the alleged offence took place. Obviously more important than catching rapists.
 
Beneagles said:
If the vehicle is not causing an obstruction, then it is not their responsibility. The blue/white tape is merely to inform the public that it has already been reported, and there is no need for another 78 people to call in about it. If all such cars were lifted and stored then the police budget would be even further stretched than it already is.



In the wider scope of things, car-theft (yes...even landys) is pretty low priority, in exactly the same way as vandalism and shoplifting. Like it or not, the average plod does not have a spare 5 hours to go chasing around after every non-violent, non-life-threatening crime - esp when the Insurance companies are the ones taking the hit.
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Priority my arse, a crime should be a priority. It's a priority to the person who the crime as been committed against. And listen the average plod spends half is days sat on his house or walking around Morrisons.
 
If we keep voting for a government that's obsessed with cutting all public services to (past) the bone in the name of austerity then guess what.....
 
Seffy said:
Old lady mugged at knife point while cop guards empty car.

That's an alternative headline. Cops are a finite resource, and thanks to public and government demands there are less of them around than ever.. Of course we could have a cop on every street corner, dealing with every little thing, then we complain about 80% income tax and a police state.
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Interestingly when the most recent round of Essex police budget cuts was announced the crime commissioner went public to say that if each Essex rate-payer paid an extra 50p a week the police could maintain their original manpower. Personally, despite being on a pension, I'd willingly pay a lot more than that for an effective police force.
 
blue beasty said:
If we keep voting for a government that's obsessed with cutting all public services to (past) the bone in the name of austerity then guess what.....
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Personally, I didn't.

But other people might not either if there were sensible alternatives.
Only Labour and the LibDems can have any serious impact on the Tories. And both seem obsessed with their internal differences, resulting in policies that are very unlikely to find mass support.

norseman said:
Interestingly when the most recent round of Essex police budget cuts was announced the crime commissioner went public to say that if each Essex rate-payer paid an extra 50p a week the police could maintain their original manpower. Personally, despite being on a pension, I'd willingly pay a lot more than that for an effective police force.
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We recently had a survey round asking if we would pay more to keep the library.

We voted that we would, mainly because my mates wife works there! :D

But I am not sure if it isn't a slippery slope to further privatisations! :(
 
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