Marmaduke
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Buy a series that's tax exempt
I have considered putting a lpg v8 lump in mine a couple of times but I've also considered selling it and buying a Wrangler that's already lpg converted
I have considered putting a lpg v8 lump in mine a couple of times but I've also considered selling it and buying a Wrangler that's already lpg converted
markomate2
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That a very impressive figure! Ive talked to a few truck drivers, most seem to ave 6-7 mpg!it's a euro 6 Mercedes and the company are impressed cos it's averaging 11 mpg
Smiths did make some large electric trucks but despite some high profile users, they never really took off.
I guess the big issue is weight, a bit like aircraft, the more static weight, the less load carrying capacity.
EV technology is moving on, despite thoughts a few year ago that it had plateaued, Tesla really shock the market up but theres still a way to go to make large EVs make economic sense.
saxavordian
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Previously when I had my 110 V8 3.5 on SU carbs adapted to open LPG system it was lovely during the summertimes but needed to keep on starting on petrol to keep the carbs lubed and monitoring of the oil. Winter can be a sod mainly for getting the engine warmed up and then flicking over to LPG is a fine art while in traffic while waiting for the dip in performance. I think the fuel inject variety work better due to the nature of the switch over not being that harsh.Buy a series that's tax exempt
I have considered putting a lpg v8 lump in mine a couple of times but I've also considered selling it and buying a Wrangler that's already lpg converted
In some respects I would love to return back to LPG as I feel this was the best of both worlds when concerning environmental issues. Sadly funds and looking after a disabled parent has effected my choice.
Marmaduke
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Funds, having two lads one at uni and one doing a levels and also working six on two off is effecting mine
saxavordian
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I don't what fellow Landy owners feel about LPG but the government and local authorities seem to have missed a trick here in clean air technology this would have kick started the process. There was only a slight difference in power output but not enough to worry at traffic lights in and land rover. Quite a few taxis still had duel conversion when I was still using LPG in the mid 2000. Considering battery powered vehicle maybe clean but a source for replacement would be like replacing an engine and not cheap plus adding in cost general wear an tear for pot hole central. Not forgetting Hydrogen energy powered car is still beyond the safe route for jonny fiddler without a science degree.
you'll probably live longer than most of us on here. I also think your right in saying that diesel will still be going but will be either banned from cities and some towns or charged a shed load of money to enter. It also looks like plans are afoot to charge diesel users more for road tax, so many hobby diesel users will end up having to sell on or scrap their vehicles due to higher cost of road tax and diesel.I had my doubts about the Donald, but Brexit, well I knew that was on the cards. And at 70 this year, saying something like diesel will be going long after my days is a pretty fair bet too.
Whole thing really upsets me, as I've always wanted a land rover since I was a small boy and now that I'm slightly taller and alot older I finally get one and it looks like the government is trying to take it away from me.
brian47
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And twenty or thirty years ago the government was telling people to buy diesel and even offering subsidies to get it to happen.
ifloochies
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Seems like it was only yesterday...there were old school smokey all mechanical diesel astras, renaults and vw golfs all over the place.
Joemac434
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As an ex haulier using up to date vehicles with ad blue injection I can categorically tell you that the emissions frim those 44 tonne trucks is less per kilometre than a 2.0 volkswagen dieselWell, that first item is hardly new news, it's an article from 3 months ago, 2 Nov 2016. And it is in the Guardian the tree hugger's handbook.
With the exception of the first BBC article, the others are from last year too.
It is strange though how everytime the problem of vehicle exhaust fumes arises, there's always a picture of an old rusty car exhaust tailpipe.
Diesel fumes in the cities might well be problem, I won't argue with that, but so are petrol exhaust fumes. The major causes of these problems are unlikely to be "light" vehicles only but some of the larger vehicle engines such as buses, lorries, bin lorries, fire appliances and so on.
When was the last time the writer stood on a platform in Paddington Station? And what about diesel powered vessels on the river?
What has brought this to the fore now is the almost permanents high pressure weather conditions over the country giving rise to very light winds and early winter fog trapping the pollution, which I agree isn't much fun if you're in it.
As to a ban on diesel engines, well that just ain't gonna happen in my lifetime or probably even yours.
I don't see how that can be to do with vehicle fumes, a parked car doesn't emit any.
Joemac434
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Dont go to the ****hole,spend your money elsewhere
Gaia does that ...
Bio fuels are being used in increasing amounts, which is also why we are seeing 'Diesel bug' more and more. Apparently the organic matter grows/ multiplies quicker in veg oil.
Ethanol based petrol is being used in Somerset, I think ford have some adapted vehicles in that area, that news is from 2012 so has probably moved on now.
Hydrogen is the future for trucks, there are some hydrogen fuel cell buses in Lunnon I believe. Think I read the hydrogen refuel points are going to be setup within M25, I think there are 7 at present.
Where I am working at the moment they have an Electric van,which is good, however it has electric seats, sometimes you have to wonder what on earth the designers were thinking, apparently range is 100miles +/- 10, goes down to 80 miles with lights, windscreen wipers, radio etc, then put your heated seats on and it is down to 40.
Next question, how do you heat an EV ? ( my answer would be use a FBH such as installed in FL1 )
Ethanol based petrol is being used in Somerset, I think ford have some adapted vehicles in that area, that news is from 2012 so has probably moved on now.
Hydrogen is the future for trucks, there are some hydrogen fuel cell buses in Lunnon I believe. Think I read the hydrogen refuel points are going to be setup within M25, I think there are 7 at present.
Where I am working at the moment they have an Electric van,which is good, however it has electric seats, sometimes you have to wonder what on earth the designers were thinking, apparently range is 100miles +/- 10, goes down to 80 miles with lights, windscreen wipers, radio etc, then put your heated seats on and it is down to 40.
Next question, how do you heat an EV ? ( my answer would be use a FBH such as installed in FL1 )
Diesel heater : )
Marmaduke
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The problem is most of the worlds economies rely on oil, look what happened when the barrel prices dropped. I remember seeing a hydrogen powered Honda on top gear a while back and its only emissions were water. This has to be the way forward but the world and his dog can pluck hydrogen straight out the air and this would wreck the world economy. Not that I'd loose much sleep
saxavordian
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Can you imagine the future garage grease monkey, whipping his forehead with kimwipe soaked in nuclear waste as he sucks through his radiated buck tooth
Only to hand you a bill for the problem dodgy windscreen wiper being the reactor being dicky.
whipping his forehead with kimwipe soaked in nuclear waste as he sucks through his radiated buck toothOnly to hand you a bill for the problem dodgy windscreen wiper being the reactor being dicky
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It would be a lot easier and cheaper if they kept diesels and supplied particle masks for pedestrians. Diesel cars are just an easy target. Of course the millions of gallons of unburned Paraffin thrown into the atmosphere by jet engines every year is of no consequence.
