hmm well actually if i'm honest, which is rare, there was a brown trouser moment when it pitched sideways and started to slide. had to let it go backwards into that tree on the right of the pic to stop myself rolling. it was foookin steep. if you look just past the landy you can see the other cars at the bottom waiting their turn. smashed me rear lights, me wing mirror and dented the rear panel where the lights are. had to get winched up. perhaps you are right!
 
best photo

Offroading02.jpg
 
I think that is a bit more than a bow wave in the first picture.... How quick did you hit the water?
 
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