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Buckhandle

Active Member

• Oct 3, 2020

• #1

My TD5 cut out while driving. No post warnings, just a clean cut. Cranks fine, but fuel pump only runs if I shortcut the relay. Even when the pump is shortcut the engine does not fire. Any ideas?

 

Si Click

Well-Known Member

• Oct 3, 2020

• #2

The fuel pump power supply is obviously suspect, but you might want to check the battery voltage and get a diagnostic check in order to rule out the crank position signal or the ECU itself. You might also want to check the red ECU plug for oil.

 

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Buckhandle

Active Member

• Oct 3, 2020

• #3

Thank you! Plugs already cleaned, and battery re-charged over night. No difference. Will plug in the Nanocom, but do also suspect the ecu died

 

wireman

Well-Known Member

• Oct 3, 2020

• #4

Check the cleanliness and tightness of the relays. Also check the earth near the ecu is clean and tight.

 

wireman

Well-Known Member

• Oct 3, 2020

• #5

More, non starting TD5 info here:
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/advice-needed-2001-td5-wont-start.361736/

 

raywin

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• Oct 3, 2020

• #6

wireman said:

Check the cleanliness and tightness of the relays. Also check the earth near the ecu is clean and tight.

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Do you get the yellow light on the dash when you first turn on the ignition?
If not then probably the main relay
I agree with the previous message, it's worth pulling out the relays under the drivers seat and pushing them back firmly.

 

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Buckhandle

Active Member

• Oct 4, 2020

• #7

Which Main relay ?

 

raywin

Well-Known Member

• Oct 4, 2020

• #8

On the Defender there are yellow relays under the drivers seat, one is the main relay, you might check the bonnet switch also which is made when you close the bonnet.

 

Carreg

Active Member

• Oct 7, 2020

• #9

Does anyone have the part number for the yellow relay under the drivers seat please

 

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Buckhandle

Active Member

• Oct 9, 2020

• #10

wireman said:

More, non starting TD5 info here:
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/advice-needed-2001-td5-wont-start.361736/

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Problem not solved yet. Doubt it is lack of voltage as the car cut out while driving and a test with a fully charged battery made no difference

 

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Buckhandle

Active Member

• Oct 9, 2020

• #11

raywin said:

On the Defender there are yellow relays under the drivers seat, one is the main relay, you might check the bonnet switch also which is made when you close the bonnet.

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sorry for my late reply. All done no difference.

 

Si Click

Well-Known Member

• Oct 9, 2020

• #12

Is the fuel pump still not working properly? Have you purged the system of air fully? Replaced the air bleed valve?

 

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Buckhandle

Active Member

• Oct 9, 2020

• #13

The fuel pump has worked all along, but it does not fire

 

Si Click

Well-Known Member

• Oct 9, 2020

• #14

Sorry I thought the pump only worked if you shortcut the relay.
What readings did you get from the Nanocom?
If nothing and your battery is giving a good voltage (12+ volts at start) then that rules out crank position sensor feed and ECU, and pretty much leaves a fuel issue.
If the pump runs then check it is giving 4 bar at the gallery (plug into the fuel temp port).
Run through the full purge system (ignition ON, but don't try to start, pump the throttle until the MIL flashes and then leave for 5 mins to purge - if you hear air then that is a big clue).
Replace the air bleed valve in the fuel filter housing.
Replace the injector washers.
If you suspect there is air in the fuel after that lot then search the fuel lines for a small leak where air can get in.

 

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Buckhandle

Active Member

• Oct 26, 2020

• #15

Sorry for my late update! The ECU was toast, a burned resistor !