jedi

jedi

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In my manual it says "DO NOT press the selector release button when selecting `N` from `D`"

well if I dont press the button the gear lever dont move?

but when selecting `D` from `N` it goes without pressing the button, is this a miskate in the manual?

Am I best putting it in neutral when at lights, any tips with this auto box, as I`ve never had an auto before.
 
I think I do not have to push the button to go from D to N, as going from N to D I think I have to press the button. (But it all goes so automatically that I'm not certain though ....:eek: will check it out next drive). As for putting it in N at traffic lights etc. I've read on a Belgian autoforum (a general forum, not a LR one) where some mechanics are member that it's better to leave it in D, it will wear less than changing it from D to N and back from N to D again all the time. For what it's worth of course.

Sorry, just went to the garage and checked it out. Going from N to D does NOT need a push, from D to N needs a push. Thus same as yours, if other way round in the manual probably an error. Sorry for the incorrect first input.
 
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Ok thanks so the manual must be wrong.

So is it ok to leave it in D when at the lights, its just the manual states not to leave it in D with the engine running and your foot on the brake for long periods.

Surely this must wear items in the box, as its constanty trying to move forward but cant because you are on the brake.
 
I used to put it in N as well at every traffic light I stopped but after reading that input from these guys I now leave it in D and hold it with the brakes. It's not that long after all that traffic lights keep red, so ....
 
jedi said:
Ok thanks so the manual must be wrong.

So is it ok to leave it in D when at the lights, its just the manual states not to leave it in D with the engine running and your foot on the brake for long periods.

Surely this must wear items in the box, as its constanty trying to move forward but cant because you are on the brake.
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According to description in RAVE

When drive is selected, brake switch is activated and no reading from ABS sensors. (meaning the car has come to a stand still) The ECU (Engine Control Unit) changes the torque curve of the engine and gear box simulating Neutral mode.

As soon as brake switch releases or the car is moving normal Drive mode is selected.

No worries in leaving it in D at a traffic light.

Jarl:cool:
 
Thanks thats made me feel better, But I may just check this by removing the brake pedal switch and hold it in without depressing the brake pedal.
 
Pull your handbrake level and press / depress the brake pedal in Drive and you will notice the engine behaves/sound different.

Jarl :cool:
 
I did something silly today I put it into P before I had fully stopped:doh: I heard a bit of clicking, did`nt sound good. but all is well so far.

Anyway, so why does the manual say not to leave it in drive for long periods with the engine running and your foot on the brake?
 
I asked this question to several auto mechanics when looking to get my Freelander auto replaced. Should I leave it in Drive or Neutral at the traffic lights etc? The response was the same. If it’s only 10 seconds, then leave it in. If it’s longer then take it out of Drive. Reason behind this is when it’s in drive the torque converter is still having to work. It will get unnecessarily hotter. Effectively more wear and tear. You may hear the engine revs drop, but this is because your loading the car. I appreciate what’s been said above about lower revs when the brake switched is pressed.

Some car manuals tell you to take it out of Drive, other say don’t bother. The majority of the later cars on the market tell you to put it in Neutral. Freelander 1 doesn’t necessarily say it obviously, where as the Disco 3 and 4 instruct you to do so. So do all the later LR auto’s. They were the examples given to me. The Ashcroft fitters advise to take it out of Drive.
 
I would have to agree with you on this Mr Hippo. Even though my foot is on the brake and the vehicle in D I can still feel it trying to pull, Like you say its still working, trying to pull forward. I will be putting it in neutral just for my own peace of mind.

I will eventualy remove the brake switch and press it in with brake off to see if the vehicle stops completly.
 
Something I find interesting about the new auto’s…

I had a test drive in a Disco 4 off road at Eastnor Castle. When driving down a 45 degree slope, in 1st low, then putting my foot on the brake, the car stopped. Whilst stationary I then selected reverse, then took my foot off the brake. The Disco 4 knows to keep the brakes held on, until you increase the engine revs enough so the car has the power to go backwards. If this were my Freelander, he’d roll forward. Now int that clever.
 
Is this just in reverse? As mine will hold on a 45 degree slope in D, just with the auto box itself. maybe the brakes come into play but I did`nt think so. I took my foot of the brake while in D and it held there. Not tired it in reverse mind.
 
jedi said:
Is this just in reverse? As mine will hold on a 45 degree slope in D, just with the auto box itself. maybe the brakes come into play but I did`nt think so. I took my foot of the brake while in D and it held there. Not tired it in reverse mind.
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It was on a Disco 4. Not the Freelander. I’ve held my Freelander at 25 degrees in Drive on tick over, but not for long. It’s putting stress on the auto.

The guy giving me the sales brief sold the idea as a feature of the Disco 4, to make off road driving easier. Most auto’s will hold on a slope to a certain point. But as I say the strain on the auto, particularly the torque converter I think, if not the clutches, would put me off doing it. When off road in a convoy I always try to wait for cars to pass an obstacle in front whilst on level ground. That’s safer. The Disco 4 idea was to allow you to reverse out of a steep slope, if you needed too.

A fantastic vehicle, but would make off roading a little boring when compared to the Freelander. A Freelander driver has to choose the route taken, to work with the car to get through. The disco 4 seems to go over everything. Including slopes the trattor didn’t. He was out on the course at the same time as me.
 
Ok thanks for the info once again Mr Hippo, This is my 1st auto so i`m not to sure what to do with it at certain times. I do however tend to think they are not as robust as a manual and as such must be treated with care.

I`m always thinking its gona blow.:eek:
 
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