Lej · Jul 13, 2020

Hi everyone,

So I have a C reg 1985 Land Rover Ninety and in 5 years it will be eligible for tax exemption. But what are the rules on this? On the Govt website it says anything over 40 is eligible.

I am hoping it really is as basic as that. I know it's based off of the chassis ID but does anything else factor into this, for instance- engine changes or modifications to drive train etc?

dieseldog69 · Jul 13, 2020

Lej said:
Hi everyone,

So I have a C reg 1985 Land Rover Ninety and in 5 years it will be eligible for tax exemption. But what are the rules on this? On the Govt website it says anything over 40 is eligible.

I am hoping it really is as basic as that. I know it's based off of the chassis ID but does anything else factor into this, for instance- engine changes or modifications to drive train etc?

Points based system including chassis, engine, transmission, axles and suspension.

I'm sure someone will be along in a minute with a link to the gov website.

Lej · Jul 13, 2020

dieseldog69 said:
Points based system including chassis, engine, transmission, axles and suspension.

I'm sure someone will be along in a minute with a link to the gov website.

That's what I thought, but looking into it that's the MOT exemption, I can't seem to find the rules for Tax exemption

dieseldog69 · Jul 13, 2020

Lej said:
That's what I thought, but looking into it that's the MOT exemption, I can't seem to find the rules for Tax exemption

Doesn't seem as though there are any rules regarding tax exemption only MOT exemption, Does seem rather odd though that it has changed as you could effectively have a tax exempt brand new vehicle based solely on a VIN number by that standard.

300bhp/ton · Jul 13, 2020

Lej said:
Hi everyone,

So I have a C reg 1985 Land Rover Ninety and in 5 years it will be eligible for tax exemption. But what are the rules on this? On the Govt website it says anything over 40 is eligible.

I am hoping it really is as basic as that. I know it's based off of the chassis ID but does anything else factor into this, for instance- engine changes or modifications to drive train etc?

It's all on the gov website. Googling will get you all the answers, and quicker than it would have taken you to post on here

Look for Rebuilt vehicle regs, Radically altered vehicle regs and the Tax exemption regs. It's all very clearly written and easy to understand

300bhp/ton · Jul 13, 2020

dieseldog69 said:
Doesn't seem as though there are any rules regarding tax exemption only MOT exemption, Does seem rather odd though that it has changed as you could effectively have a tax exempt brand new vehicle based solely on a VIN number by that standard.

This isn't the case at all, suggest you look a bit harder

norseman · Jul 13, 2020

Lej said:
Hi everyone,
So I have a C reg 1985 Land Rover Ninety and in 5 years it will be eligible for tax exemption. But what are the rules on this? On the Govt website it says anything over 40 is eligible.

In five years time ?
A lot can change in that period, so why not ask the question much nearer the date

Lej · Jul 13, 2020

You'll wink and it will be here

Lej · Jul 13, 2020

300bhp/ton said:
It's all on the gov website. Googling will get you all the answers, and quicker than it would have taken you to post on here

Look for Rebuilt vehicle regs, Radically altered vehicle regs and the Tax exemption regs. It's all very clearly written and easy to understand

It is, but I'm exactly like dieseldog's response... shocked that it's done by the age of the chassis.

300bhp/ton · Jul 13, 2020

Lej said:
It is, but I'm exactly like dieseldog's response... shocked that it's done by the age of the chassis.

It isn't FFS

It is done on the age of the vehicle, since manufacture. Which is usually when first reregistered, but not always. There are plenty of regs that tell you you can or can't do to retain the identity of a vehicle. Or if it will need an IVA, which will give it a new identity and likely a new date of construction....

The vehicle ID is, well a way of ID'ing a vehicle..... So if you vehicle is eligible to retain it's ID due to mods. Then it will be eligible for historic tax classification. If it shouldn't keep it's ID, then chances are it will not be eligible for to be an Historic vehicle.

Ratae · Jul 13, 2020

Suppose I'd better do it then.
https://www.gov.uk/historic-vehicles.
Follow the links in the website.

discool · Jul 14, 2020

I have a car that was registered in September 1976 so now registered as ‘historic’ all very straight forward via the DVLA, so now MOT exempt but NOT tax exempt the car has to be tax every year or SORN if u wish, although now there’s no fee to pay for the tax.

dieseldog69 · Jul 14, 2020

300bhp/ton said:
It is done on the age of the vehicle, since manufacture. Which is usually when first reregistered, but not always.

Not sure how this will work for me then as my 1992 D1 was "first registered" in 2016, not sure it will still be around in 2056 for tax exemption

300bhp/ton · Jul 14, 2020

dieseldog69 said:
Not sure how this will work for me then as my 1992 D1 was "first registered" in 2016, not sure it will still be around in 2056 for tax exemption

Is it on a 2016 plate or an age related plate? As a rule they stopped issuing new plates to old unregistered vehicles, but I daresay a few still slip through. BTW - I assume you missed the "but not always..." but of my post

Turboman · Jul 14, 2020

Lej said:
Hi everyone,

So I have a C reg 1985 Land Rover Ninety and in 5 years it will be eligible for tax exemption. But what are the rules on this? On the Govt website it says anything over 40 is eligible.

I am hoping it really is as basic as that. I know it's based off of the chassis ID but does anything else factor into this, for instance- engine changes or modifications to drive train etc?

Under the current regs. it should be as simple as that.

However, I agree with @norseman , vehicle legislation, especially as regards 4wd and more polluting vehicles, is changing very rapidly.

I would think start to look into it in 2024 might be the best plan, see what the situation is with the law, and your vehicle, then.

dieseldog69 · Jul 15, 2020

300bhp/ton said:
Is it on a 2016 plate or an age related plate? As a rule they stopped issuing new plates to old unregistered vehicles, but I daresay a few still slip through. BTW - I assume you missed the "but not always..." but of my post

Age related, it's imported from Belgium, I do have the original CoC for it and the date of export and the date of first registration in Belgium, also have the import date into Holland and I registered it here in the UK, could be an interesting debacle 2032 when it's tax exempt, on the proviso I can still drive it on the highway lol

300bhp/ton · Jul 15, 2020

dieseldog69 said:
Age related, it's imported from Belgium, I do have the original CoC for it and the date of export and the date of first registration in Belgium, also have the import date into Holland and I registered it here in the UK, could be an interesting debacle 2032 when it's tax exempt, on the proviso I can still drive it on the highway lol

Should be no problem. People import 1000’s of vehicles every year. I’m pretty sure you weren’t the first

dieseldog69 · Jul 15, 2020

300bhp/ton said:
Should be no problem. People import 1000’s of vehicles every year. I’m pretty sure you weren’t the first

No telling with the low grade civil servants in HMRC

Corfewoodsman · Jul 15, 2020

Live for the day.
Enjoy your vehicle.
Think about it nearer the time.
Have fun!

rob1miles · Jul 16, 2020

Tax exempt "rolling" date is, I believe renewed in each budget, given the current issues I would not be suprised if it slips a year or two.

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