I remember reading there was a post 99 crossover period and all the P38s ended up with 4 pin front diffs - the 4.6 Thor had them from the off. Front TC put too much strain on the two pin front diffs. Could be wrong I wish I could find the source.

From memory 4.0 litre and diesel had two pin diffs front and rear. 4.6 four pin rear and two pin front. Went to four pin front and rear with 4 wheel TC. Others stayed same. Service exchange units for older part numbers are available from Land rover at the usual silly prices. But only one new diff is listed TBB000270. Listed for both front and rear use so i take it that will be four pin.
 
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4.6 has 4 pin diffs...or should have. My rear diff failed & what came out was a 2 pin. LR Quality Control strikes again.
 
Just saw this on Ashcroft's site which kind of fits in with what I've read before about an unofficial cross-over period from 99.

Ashcroft Transmission: "All 99 onwards (Thor) P38s 4.6s have a 4 pin front diff as standard, the 4 litre cars retained the old 2 pin until they were out of stock and switched to the 4 pin front diffs too mid 2000ish onwards in both cases the upgrade was required to handle the extra loadings introduced by the 4 wheel traction control system which came in with the Bosch engine management system. The 4 litre Thor (Bosch EMS) had a 4 pin rear diff from the off."
 
doesnt matter which you fit ,unless your going to give diff some stick

Just booting it on a slippery surface with (braked) TC gives the diff serious stick! Especially if it's snatching from side to side transferring enormous amounts of torque instead of just spinning it away. Probably why LR quietly dropped the two pin when four wheel TC became standard. :confused:
 
To this day I have never lost traction in 4.6 enough to have the light flash. It will be interesting to see how busy the T/C gets when I'm out on the lanes next Sunday.
 
Just booting it on a slippery surface with (braked) TC gives the diff serious stick! Especially if it's snatching from side to side transferring enormous amounts of torque instead of just spinning it away. Probably why LR quietly dropped the two pin when four wheel TC became standard. :confused:

a cheap method of using the abs as a locker, instead of putting a locking front and rear diffs like it should be
 
To this day I have never lost traction in 4.6 enough to have the light flash. It will be interesting to see how busy the T/C gets when I'm out on the lanes next Sunday.

Can't say I remember mine flashing often, even in the snow last year traction was staggering.

Is it an organised bit of laning or just you playing on your own?
 
It's a kind of organised just for a laugh thing which has been organised on here. Nothing to serious.
 
Pegged diffs on youtube shows the difference. HA HA .some say 4 pin were only fitted to police spec cars.
 
Just booting it on a slippery surface with (braked) TC gives the diff serious stick! Especially if it's snatching from side to side transferring enormous amounts of torque instead of just spinning it away. Probably why LR quietly dropped the two pin when four wheel TC became standard. :confused:

It gives the planet gears more work and load. But to be fair for normal road use will possibly very rarely be used if ever.
 
To this day I have never lost traction in 4.6 enough to have the light flash. It will be interesting to see how busy the T/C gets when I'm out on the lanes next Sunday.

You need diesel torque:) TC kicks in regularly on the cow **** covered hills round here when pulling away, also when I have to put 2 wheels on the grass verge t o pass an oncoming vehicle on a hill.
 
Pegged diffs on youtube shows the difference. HA HA .some say 4 pin were only fitted to police spec cars.

Well "some" would be wrong then! I'm sure a handful of two pin diffs probably got fitted to the wrong vehicles but 4 pin diffs became the standard in the end and were definitely what were fitted to 4.6s - front and rear post Thor.
 
You need diesel torque:) TC kicks in regularly on the cow **** covered hills round here when pulling away, also when I have to put 2 wheels on the grass verge t o pass an oncoming vehicle on a hill.

But even the lowly 4.0 V8 has more torque than the BMW 2.5TD, the 4.6 more so and the 4.6 Thor in a different league.
 

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