youmitegetian · Nov 30, 2018

So my rattling engine has got much worse,
Really noisy at times, seems much worse after it sits in traffic,
Still not convinced it’s not internal within the engine,
A mechanic suggested to me that the oil pickup may be partly blocked, might be worth checking but how hard is it to get to? Is the sumo a nightmare to remove? Presumably I’ll need a new sump gasket,
Makes sense to do it now as it’s due an oil change so figured I’d do it tomorrow,
Anything to want h out for?

gold rover · Nov 30, 2018

If you haven't taken it off before, be aware the sump is sloped. Might sound obvious but my very experienced mechanic pal covered himself in oil , being caught off guard by the slope . Honest we didn't laugh, ...................until we got all the stuff off him

P.s sump is easy to remove.Even I could do it.......almost did but let mechanic take last few bolts out

Addit: the usual suspects can tell you more technical things , but sometimes it's nice to remember the simplest slip ups

Addit2 : I think Ant may have done a 'how to' on it.

youmitegetian · Nov 30, 2018

Lol I bet he was chuffed with a grubby oil shower

gold rover · Nov 30, 2018

youmitegetian said:
Lol I bet he was chuffed with a grubby oil shower

At over 40yrs as a mechanic, I think his pride was dented

I felt rotten, as he'd only stepped in as I couldn't do the final bit. I did clean it all off the floor though

Henry_b · Nov 30, 2018

If your intention is to just replace the bearings make sure the crank journals are in good condition..

Has your mechanic been able to check the oil pressure?

youmitegetian · Nov 30, 2018

It’s more a rattle than a knock, and cam speed not crank, I know a few on here have similar issues as did my previous td6, it’s been suggested that the top end is getting starved of oil especially on my very short slow speed commute, might as well give it a look as the oil needs swapping anyway, just not sure what I’m looking at really, is the pick up easy enough to remove and clean up?

Henry_b · Nov 30, 2018

youmitegetian said:
It’s more a rattle than a knock, and cam speed not crank, I know a few on here have similar issues as did my previous td6, it’s been suggested that the top end is getting starved of oil especially on my very short slow speed commute, might as well give it a look as the oil needs swapping anyway, just not sure what I’m looking at really, is the pick up easy enough to remove and clean up?

It should be easy enough, if its a normal motor it'll be held with a small bolt

clean out the strainer with brake or carb cleaner.

youmitegetian · Nov 30, 2018

Ok cool, think I’ll need a new gasket?

Datatek · Nov 30, 2018

youmitegetian said:
Ok cool, think I’ll need a new gasket?

Yes

youmitegetian · Nov 30, 2018

That was my thinking, I’ll source one before I start

Henry_b · Nov 30, 2018

If its full of **** i'd be inclined to take the rocker cover off and give everything a good inspection.

If the motor has been maintained it should be pretty clean inside..

Timing chain tensioners and guide rails i'd also be inclined to check.

youmitegetian · Nov 30, 2018

Doesn’t sound like chain or guides but could be I guess, I did a flush in my old one and that helped for a short time, is it easy to check the chain and guides on the td6?

Henry_b · Nov 30, 2018

youmitegetian said:
Doesn’t sound like chain or guides but could be I guess, I did a flush in my old one and that helped for a short time, is it easy to check the chain and guides on the td6?

A bright torch and some manipulation of limbs should do it..

Remove the rocker cover of course

Whats the oil pressure like?

youmitegetian · Nov 30, 2018

No idea on oil pressure, not had any warning lights on but the mechanic I spoke to was telling me that he’s seen these showing decent pressure but partly clogged pickups, oil not reaching the head as well as it should His opinion was it’s worth a look

tomcat59alan · Nov 30, 2018

youmitegetian said:
That was my thinking, I’ll source one before I start

Check to see if the oil pick up has an O ring fitted, replace it as it may have hardened and cracked.

youmitegetian · Nov 30, 2018

I’ll have a google this evening so I can prefer one if it’s meant to have one

Henry_b · Nov 30, 2018

Grr the M62 ain't like the diesel never mind..

"whistling"

youmitegetian · Nov 30, 2018

I did an oil change when I got it a year ago and the oil seemed ok, obviously black but not sludge, I used expensive oil and do very few miles so hopefully it won’t be bad

Henry_b · Nov 30, 2018

youmitegetian said:
I did an oil change when I got it a year ago and the oil seemed ok, obviously black but not sludge, I used expensive oil and do very few miles so hopefully it won’t be bad

Having a brief read the M57 does have a little "history" of timing chain problems..

Again check the timing chains!!!!

youmitegetian · Nov 30, 2018

I’m no expert by any stretch so it could be, although the noise I have is nothing like what I’ve heard chain noise sound like.

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