Ok the saga continues , removed all wires from back of ignition switch and made no difference so have ruled out ignition problem . Starter still span when battery connected , until it eventually would spin no more , so suspected Solenoid fault on starter , removed old starter and replaced with new one , old starter confirmed not working by direct connection with jump leads. , now engine did turn over for a bit , (battery is good by the way )but would not start , as soon as battery is connected ignition lights come on including glow plug light , without the key in the ignition !,but nothing electrical woks at allso suspecting earth problem , in process of cleaning up replacing neg feed from battery to gearbox via chassis, are there any more earth points , have seen reference to bulkhead earth point on other posts , is this the one near the top on the drivers side with small black cables , or is there another one ? Is there an earth from gearbox to engine or chassis to engine , a location would be helpful as I have some under body protection fitted so its not easy to see everywhere .
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