youmitegetian · May 26, 2018

So another issue I've noticed today.
When I travel over 60mph the steering wheel moves slightly but quickly left to right (wobbles)
Doesn't appear to go away (been up to 80) can't feel it if I'm accelerating hard.
I've jacked up the front and can feel slight movement if I hold the nsf road wheel at 3 and 9 and pull/push, nothing on the osf wheel.
It's had new outer track rods recently and doesn't look like the movement is the inners,
Any thoughts where to check? I'm guessing it's a bush but it is only a guess.
No knocking or other signs of an issue

tomcat59alan · May 26, 2018

Steering damper?

robhew86 · May 26, 2018

youmitegetian said:
So another issue I've noticed today.
When I travel over 60mph the steering wheel moves slightly but quickly left to right (wobbles)
Doesn't appear to go away (been up to 80) can't feel it if I'm accelerating hard.
I've jacked up the front and can feel slight movement if I hold the nsf road wheel at 3 and 9 and pull/push, nothing on the osf wheel.
It's had new outer track rods recently and doesn't look like the movement is the inners,
Any thoughts where to check? I'm guessing it's a bush but it is only a guess.
No knocking or other signs of an issue

I take it you had the RR properly 4 wheel aligned after the track rod ends were replaced? I also would get the front wheels off and checked properly for balancing.
Could possibly be NSF wheel bearing, but unlikely if it only ' knocks' whilst pushing and pulling Between 3 & 9 o clock on the wheel.
I would jack it up and get somebody to get the play in the wheel and you get underneath it and look / feel for the play/movement you are getting.

HTH

robhew86 · May 26, 2018

tomcat59alan said:
Steering damper?

Rack's on the L322 Alan, doesn't that mean no damper ??

tomcat59alan · May 26, 2018

robhew86 said:
Rack's on the L322 Alan

Hence the question mark

wammers · May 26, 2018

Rocking 3 and 9 will show up a worn steering joint. Play in hub is checked 6 to 12.

myfirstl322 · May 26, 2018

tomcat59alan said:
Steering damper?

Snigger

youmitegetian · May 26, 2018

Yes had the wheel alignment done, and it was ok after the work, this has started awhile afterwards,
It doesn’t knock at all, just I can feel movement, but doesn’t feel like it’s coming from the rack, feels more like movement from the rear of the wheel, how can I check the control arm bush? It doesn’t move where it meets the subframe but I was thinking possibly where it meets the hub

tomcat59alan · May 26, 2018

myfirstl322 said:
Snigger

I haven't bought one of these new fangled 322's yet hence the question mark, it was only a suggestion.

holidaychicken · May 27, 2018

Test the temperature of each disc and calliper after a run as mine did it with a sticky calliper and the other culprit can be the servontrnic valve in the rack I think, have a search .

Datatek · May 27, 2018

Move the wheels front to back, could just be a tyre problem.

tomcat59alan · May 27, 2018

Datatek said:
Move the wheels front to back, could just be a tyre problem.

Or a buckled wheel considering the state of our roads. Good call before you start spending money unnecessarily.

Datatek · May 27, 2018

tomcat59alan said:
Or a buckled wheel considering the state of our roads. Good call before you start spending money unnecessarily.

Long time since I experienced the bomb craters on UK roads LOL. Here they are doing the Spring round of filling even little holes in our single file lanes.

youmitegetian · May 27, 2018

Hmm good call that, I’ll do it this afternoon and report back

wammers · May 27, 2018

youmitegetian said:
Hmm good call that, I’ll do it this afternoon and report back

So the play you have in the NSF wheel is to be totally ignored then?

youmitegetian · May 27, 2018

Well no but with no knocking it might be hard to diagnose but I’m open to suggestions, swapping tyres front to back is prudent anyway to spread out the wear so might as well do that anyway

wammers · May 27, 2018

youmitegetian said:
Well no but with no knocking it might be hard to diagnose but I’m open to suggestions, swapping tyres front to back is prudent anyway to spread out the wear so might as well do that anyway

So you took no notice of post #6 then. Swapping wheels will do nothing to remove the play will it.

youmitegetian · May 27, 2018

Not at all but doing that showed no play in the steering joint, as soon as the track rod moved even slightly then so did the opposite wheel, the movement came from the rear of the wheel, it’s only very slight but more than the os wheel when doing the same thing

tomcat59alan · May 27, 2018

wammers said:
So you took no notice of post #6 then. Swapping wheels will do nothing to remove the play will it.

I missed that post, as Wammers is saying, find out where the play is

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wammers · May 27, 2018

tomcat59alan said:
I missed that post, as Wammers is saying, find out where the play is.

Exactly, play wobbling 3 o'clock to 9 o'clock could be either steering joint or hub. If there is no play 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock it is a steering joint, if there is play in that orientation it is the hub bearing. Simple initial diagnostic check every good mechanic would use

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