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Hi, I have asked the question about Air or Springs before, I have received all the Pro Air answers and the legal insurance quibblesÂ…Â….

Can some of you who have on from Air to Springs, please come forward and tell me what you think.
Does fitting Springs, take away the feeling of being on a boat in rough sea's?
Does it stop the body rolling, when driving on undulating roads with poor tarmac, where the councils only repair in patches!
Im looking for the good reasons, I know I am going to be BOM:DBARDED by the ANTIS..........
 
Fit new shock absorbers. Your problems will go away. What you describe is a symptom of knackered shockers nothing to do with how the car is suspended.
 
wammers said:
Fit new shock absorbers. Your problems will go away. What you describe is a symptom of knackered shockers nothing to do with how the car is suspended.
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+1, the car rides very well with good shocks on air, much less roll than my previous 4 x 4's on springs.
 
New shockers and anti roll bar rubbers are a lot cheaper than a coil conversion.
 
Datatek said:
+1, the car rides very well with good shocks on air, much less roll than my previous 4 x 4's on springs.
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I had a Disco on coils that was like a rowing boat, new anti roll bar rubbers and a set of OEM shocks sorted it out. It amazes me the amount of totally bloody clueless people who own cars but claim to be capable of doing their own maintenance.
 
It's a luxury car. Air suspension was the whole point. They'd have fitted springs at the factory if the ride was better on springs. Air is much more forgiving over potholes and other terrain which is why it is on the car in the first place. If you have a bad ride, your problem is elsewhere. As above suggestions state, try the shocks. If you have bad shocks, it will be EVEN WORSE on springs!!
 
Gen IIIs + oem shocks + new suspension bushes = joy.

I did the bushes last but wish I'd done them earlier; I thought that the steering box was on the way out but it was the bushes.

13 years old and now drives like a car (in the good sense).
 
SpiggyTopes said:
Gen IIIs + oem shocks + new suspension bushes = joy.

I did the bushes last but wish I'd done them earlier; I thought that the steering box was on the way out but it was the bushes.

13 years old and now drives like a car (in the good sense).
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GenIII's are a waste of cash unless you fit extended shocks etc and are into serious off roading, GenII's are perfectly adequate for road use.:)
 
My classic Rangie (last of the coil sprung ones) really did scare me half to death in near tip situations at least twice (yes I was probably driving like a tit.) It was only two years old at the time so the suspension wasn't knackered. The P38 on air feels like an F1 car in comparison! I even have fun getting the back end out on greasy roundabouts - I wouldn't dare try that in my old classic! Fit coil springs if you want - it's your car but you'll be doing yourself and the car a disservice in the handling stakes unless you fit very stiff highway height springs - then it'll ride like an Audi and your dentist bill will be astronomical!
 
StuckAgainSteve said:
My classic Rangie (last of the coil sprung ones) really did scare me half to death in near tip situations at least twice (yes I was probably driving like a tit.) It was only two years old at the time so the suspension wasn't knackered. The P38 on air feels like an F1 car in comparison! I even have fun getting the back end out on greasy roundabouts - I wouldn't dare try that in my old classic! Fit coil springs if you want - it's your car but you'll be doing yourself and the car a disservice in the handling stakes unless you fit very stiff highway height springs - then it'll ride like an Audi and your dentist bill will be astronomical!
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Having worked on and driven early Classics when they were new, i can 100% say that the handling of the P38 is very much better than any Classic Range rover on coils. They really were bad. If a P38 on coils is anything like as bad as the Classic was fitting them is a serious step in the wrong direction.
 
+1 above to all..i have air on my rrc..it did have springs...air so much better..no wallowing..running feck off shockers though..

THOUGH i will be fitting gen111 springs...the issue with lr air is the lower the ride the softer it goes, and obviously the higher the ride the stiffer it is...EXACTLY the opposite is required..ie high speed motorway/fast lanes at over 55 when it lowers i wish firm suspension...but standard one gets soft...and when on high (+3 on mine) i wish it to be soft to get over the ruts and rocks..but no its solid..so when cash allows arnott gen111!
 
zen said:
+1 above to all..i have air on my rrc..it did have springs...air so much better..no wallowing..running feck off shockers though..

THOUGH i will be fitting gen111 springs...the issue with lr air is the lower the ride the softer it goes, and obviously the higher the ride the stiffer it is...EXACTLY the opposite is required..ie high speed motorway/fast lanes at over 55 when it lowers i wish firm suspension...but standard one gets soft...and when on high (+3 on mine) i wish it to be soft to get over the ruts and rocks..but no its solid..so when cash allows arnott gen111!
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so really only height selection then
 
yep..at standard height..air every day!!its just when at speed it would be nice to have stiffer...

catch 22,,air allows car to drop..this helps handling at speed..but at same time removes some stiffness that you want at speed..ie braking...more dive cos springs go softer at speed (cos the lower)..more roll too..but less travel...

i personaly love air compared to coils,ON RRC..so much better..but i will be going arnott gen 111 ...that i feel will make it near on perfect.

i assume same will apply on p38...same suspension afterall..(air)
 
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