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I would be really grateful if someone would kindly let me know the dimensions of the late series 3 stub axle "land" where the twin lip rubber seal sits. Replacements are now now running north of £400 pounds if they are in stock. So a SPEEDI-SLEEVE looks like a good alternative, this problem is only going to get worse so might be useful if we could get some information up. This is going to be a "Road side" job so I need to pre-order the part before starting, hence the request.
If any one has done this and got some tips and advice that would be great. Also can an early defender one be made to work? Is there some one re-furbing them?
Just wish my 3D printer was up to the job!!!!
 
£400:eek: someone is having a giraffe. The early 90 stub should fit [ Type with a slot not a flat ]
Series stub axles were the same from series one to 1980 series 3. They had a renewable land, after that stubs became one piece so if the land is damaged you have to change the whole stub.
 
I have the later type (expensive) which is technically better but are now pricey as the were only in production for about 5 years so now have become hard to find as supplies have basically dries up. However I have heard good things about the Speedi-sleeve, if prepped and fitted the right way should make a decent seal and at about £25 a pop may eventually be the only practical solution ( unless someone starts manufacturing them like Brit***Parts). Hence the need for the dimensions of the Land if anyone is able let me know. The early 90/110 were about 60mm but I would rather know what the series 3 is for sure.
 
The later type is not technically better, just cheaper to make.
Try Famous Four products
 
Technically better in the fact they allowed escaped oil to drain away, had 2 large sized wheel bearings and yes were probably cheaper to make and so to buy in their day. Trouble is their day was short lived in production numbers terms and so now 35 years on becoming difficult to find new ( have a search today and no one actually has any in stock). So the speedi sleeve (or equivalent) is probably the best solution as things stand. £25 versa £420 +vat and delivery if in stock x 4 and my old Land Rover has just doubled in price in parts alone.
But seriously for those with LWB and 81> you will sooner or later hit this problem when the oil seal starts leaking. I will try and give some definitive answers when I finally find the size needed.

P.S Famous Four have none in stock
 
One another forum someone said the early 90/110 does not fit due to the rear flange, but I reckon a angle grinder might pursued it. Again will update if this is so.
 
Do a search, I know several people have done this and posted some info but i can't find it. Their stub axles were very pitted so it was about prep and getting a concentric true surface ready for the sleeve. I think one of them used plastic metal and set the sleeve. I seem to recall the sleeve prices vary quite a bit.
 
You are right, it is very important to get the surface as smooth as possible in order to get the best results. The sleeves vary from £15 to about £26.
 
Did you get yours sorted, I have a worn FRC3924 and FRC3132 looks similar but not sure so looking at the specie sleeve diameter looks about 60mm
 
You may have to contact speedi sleeve / NSK as the land is not very deep and the sleeves seem to be a proportion in length to diameter. ie may be too deep. Try contacting bearing boys as they stock speedi sleeve parts
 
steve2286w said:
You can get them about 11mm long , I need to measure up with mic rather than caliper to get accurate readings
Good info here

https://www.bearingstation.co.uk/files/spec-sheets/523.pdf
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Is the internal diameter of the seal not a good enough guide?
I have some of them dimensions in the attached pdf.
The handbrake speedi sleeve inner and outer diameter is also there.
Bottom of page 12 top of page 13 your pdf seems to be the choices
 

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Would it be possible to locate an earlier type stub axle with the separate land? The land could be replaced before starting the job.

As far as I know, if you know anyone who is competent with a lathe, the worn out one piece axle could be modified to accept a replaceable land once it had been removed.
 
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I have a spare land in my spares box so that’s another way to go, turn it down and make interference fit
 
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