Vogueman

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This is a bit of a saga, which started a few months ago and I might need you guys and your experience with these vehicles that I am not been cynical or just bad luck.. I had a rattle on the N/S/F, but only at around 15 to 25 mph. It is a 2003 Vogue V8 Petrol, the rattle seemed elusive, the garage I used at the time had it for 3 days did 40 miles in it, they couldn't find the fault.
Eventually, it was suggested by the guy who did the gearbox, I take it to this Land Rover specialist, whose tag line is something like " Dealership professionalism without the price tag". I took it in, the mechanic asked me to drive it, which I did, we hadn't got off the forecourt, when he said turn round I know what it is.
It turned out to be the lower ball joint under the cv boot, the that fits in a hole on the hub. The rattle had gone, this was great £340, they did both sides mind you. Are you still with me, good, right drove down to my daughters in Oxfordshire, 168 miles, when I got there I noticed a thick black greasy mess on the N/S/F alloy, I knew straight away that the CV boot was split, just above the first ball joint they replaced. In the end I paid £700 for a new driveshaft, as the original was contaminated with debris from the drive. At this point, I was getting that stitched up feeling. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, I booked it in for a service and MOT.
This is the part that I am unsure about, they didn't actually fail it, but said it needed some welding to, wait for it, the rear sills where it meets the wheel arch, also the side steps were corroded. The quote for the welding was (cringe) £500 + VAT per side. The MOT is still active and runs out on 3 Feb, my problem is the car is 18 years old and every MOT to date has not mentioned anything about this corrosion on the rear. I did have the notion of going somewhere else and have the MOT done before it expires. I love this car, I will have the repairs done, but I need your feedback to make sure I am not been conned. Any suggestions or ideas will be gratefully received
 
Has the car is knocking on a bit, this rust didn't appear overnight, so is it part of the MOT or not, we don't have a practising tester on here by any chance.
 
If i recall it's only a failure if it's significant rust within 30cm of a structural part of the car
 
Has the car is knocking on a bit, this rust didn't appear overnight, so is it part of the MOT or not, we don't have a practising tester on here by any chance.
Structural rust is certainly in the MOT, not so sure about cosmetic rust though unless it's visibly dangerous, but others will know for sure.
 
If i recall it's only a failure if it's significant rust within 30cm of a structural part of the car
OK what's 30cm in old money, I can't see it advancing that far in a year, when it's been nowhere, owing to this covid malarkey
 
I did have the notion of going somewhere else and have the MOT done before it expires.
It is there I have seen it, but my question is, why hasn't the garage failed it for the rust, when the MOT is still active on the.GOV website as we speak

Going somewhere else for an MOT won't make the rust disappear :D
IMO if it's structural or within 12 inches of seatbelt mounting, or dangerous to pedestrians it's a fail.
 
Going somewhere else for an MOT won't make the rust disappear :D
IMO if it's structural or within 12 inches of seatbelt mounting, or dangerous to pedestrians it's a fail.
No this true, but was it being used as an excuse to fail it and screw me over, which from an MOT point of view would be fraud.
 
Thank you to you all, I am really appreciative of your input and guidance, I will let the said garage do the work, to keep my lovely car going a bit longer.
 
We have had the rust come up a few times, one member had what looked like a little bit of surface scabbing but turned out to be like lace under the paint the sills and wheel arches seam to rust out on the inside and look fine till it is poked and investigated, the steel is iirc boron steel and is thinner and harder than most motors and can be a pig to weld.
 

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