Rebz · Jul 13, 2021

Battling to get my 110 csw on the road, project was rather set back since flooding in Feb 2020 and the pandemic (sadly I hadn't much time to work on her) so the firewall is rebuilt, new clutch and flywheel with the gubbins) almost mot ready so I thought I'd chuck it in and see what comes back. A few minor issues, seal leaking, gaiter worn, wiper blade and.... this. Holes poked in the A Frame cross member. FML.

Question to you wonderful knowledgeable gurus, is this part replaceable and if not does the body really need to come off or can one just cut the floor out fix it up and install a new floor

Rebz · Jul 13, 2021

... lush

tottot · Jul 13, 2021

Get in there with a grinder, flap wheel, wire brush and give the thing a clean up. It may be just in need of local welding or new bottom plate. Unless you know different. gdiproducts for a crossmember £ 165.

Turboman · Jul 13, 2021

Rebz said:
Battling to get my 110 csw on the road, project was rather set back since flooding in Feb 2020 and the pandemic (sadly I hadn't much time to work on her) so the firewall is rebuilt, new clutch and flywheel with the gubbins) almost mot ready so I thought I'd chuck it in and see what comes back. A few minor issues, seal leaking, gaiter worn, wiper blade and.... this. Holes poked in the A Frame cross member. FML.

Question to you wonderful knowledgeable gurus, is this part replaceable and if not does the body really need to come off or can one just cut the floor out fix it up and install a new floor

It is replaceable, and you don't take the body off, or cut the body in any way.

Cut the chassis legs, unbolt the crossmember from the tub, put the new crossmember on the body, and over the stubs of the chassis legs, and weld it on.

the_wolf · Jul 13, 2021

Turboman said:
It is replaceable, and you don't take the body off, or cut the body in any way.

Cut the chassis legs, unbolt the crossmember from the tub, put the new crossmember on the body, and over the stubs of the chassis legs, and weld it on.

It's not the rear crossmember, it's the crossmember that the A frame bolts onto.

Turboman · Jul 13, 2021

the_wolf said:
It's not the rear crossmember, it's the crossmember that the A frame bolts onto.

Fair point. That, I think, is a body off job.

Rebz · Jul 13, 2021

So that's a no to just cutting the floor of the tub out and replacing after job is done then and body off XD Christ

Turboman · Jul 14, 2021

Rebz said:
So that's a no to just cutting the floor of the tub out and replacing after job is done then and body off XD Christ

No point. Most of the welding will have to be done under where the wheel boxes are.

Removing the body is not a bad job, just a lot of unbolting, and you will need several people to help you lift the body on a 110.

tottot · Jul 14, 2021

Getting the floor out of a rear tub in a tidy way to be replaced is just about impossible on the truck anyway and a lot more work than removing the whole tub.

Rebz · Jul 14, 2021

Best go find the manual section for removing the rear body then, just about finished rebuilding the front of the bloody thing.

I'll have a good look this weekend hopefully (true to form this goes down when one is injured) on whether the whole thing is shot or if i can get away with the bottom panel for now, it looks to be good on the edges where it mounts to chassis and on top as best I could see from a quick visual.

doriz · Jul 14, 2021

Rebz said:
Best go find the manual section for removing the rear body then, just about finished rebuilding the front of the bloody thing.

I'll have a good look this weekend hopefully (true to form this goes down when one is injured) on whether the whole thing is shot or if i can get away with the bottom panel for now, it looks to be good on the edges where it mounts to chassis and on top as best I could see from a quick visual.

Looks similar to mine

Rebz · Jul 14, 2021

With the notable exception that your way further along in resto than me lol.

tottot · Jul 14, 2021

With my series 2a gearbox crossmember I cut off the lower plate an inch up the side and re plated the bottom. Turned out I had a bit of a cheat for RTV trials with a skinny crossmember.

Rebz · Jul 14, 2021

So I've had more of a look and I think it can be repaired. Mainly I confess because a mate of mine who spent many years fixing ones that squaddies broke has had a look and agreed to take it on

turrican · Jul 14, 2021

Check inside the mud trap area , mine was very rotten. Pic attached.

Rebz · Jul 14, 2021

It was wasn't it fair play. Mine don't look anything like as bad as that thankfully but I will have a more detailed look at them to be sure

tottot · Jul 14, 2021

turrican said:
Check inside the mud trap area , mine was very rotten. Pic attached.

Top prize for dumbest bit of chassis design I have ever seen.

Number one target for my oil spray gun.

Turboman · Jul 14, 2021

tottot said:
Top prize for dumbest bit of chassis design I have ever seen. Number one target for my oil spray gun.

There are several others on a Defender chassis which could compete for the prize.
The internally welded plates, with rust from new and no possible way to get rust proofing between the plates, ever, comes pretty close.

tottot · Jul 14, 2021

Agree, Oil and diesel mix spayed in the legs through every available hole is my way.

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