markbarnes · Oct 6, 2013

Another article seems to have surfaced regarding the end of Defender production. Always cited is the current eu safety regulations blah blah blah.

If we pull out, we will save our beloved Defender? Am I right?

Thor1950 · Oct 6, 2013

Sales would be even less. There would be no allowed EU sales

jamesmartin · Oct 6, 2013

Thor1950 said:
Sales would be even less. There would be no allowed EU sales

wouldnt make any difference in that case

200tdi ayre · Oct 6, 2013

Thor1950 said:
Sales would be even less. There would be no allowed EU sales

I think they're more after American sales, bugger all defenders are sold in Europe really compared to here

Turboman · Oct 6, 2013

200tdi ayre said:
I think they're more after American sales, bugger all defenders are sold in Europe really compared to here

True in many markets, despite the continual trumpeting of advantages of eu.
When the eu imposed wordwide ban on sales of British beef in 96, only a few percent f exports were to eu. South Africa, USA, and Canada were major buyers, but the eu ban lost us those markets as well

Thor1950 · Oct 6, 2013

200tdi ayre said:
I think they're more after American sales, bugger all defenders are sold in Europe really compared to here

Not in the US for a defenders. But all the other models are good sellers.

200tdi ayre · Oct 6, 2013

Thor1950 said:
Not in the US for a defenders. But all the other models are good sellers.

Exactly they can't have them because of regulations, so to get that product into thy market they have to change the product.

Thor1950 · Oct 6, 2013

200tdi ayre said:
Exactly they can't have them because of regulations, so to get that product into thy market they have to change the product.

Really don't see a Defender meeting a market demand here, as there are better choices to be had.

200tdi ayre · Oct 6, 2013

Thor1950 said:
Really don't see a Defender meeting a market demand here, as there are better choices to be had.

I can definitely see it, off-roading market is huge. The smaller farmer that doesn't need an F350

Turboman · Oct 6, 2013

Thor1950 said:
Really don't see a Defender meeting a market demand here, as there are better choices to be had.

I thort there was a big ruckus about peeps trying to personal import defs tho

DaveM-sport · Oct 6, 2013

The Americans really want the Defender because they can't have it.

If it ends up being like any other modern ultilty 4x4 such as what they have already in abundance with the Ford Ranger, Bronco (if they make a new one), the Jeeps, F150s and everything else, I can't see it being as appealing to them.

The ones that need it for work will get something domestic and the ones that want it as a status symbol won't want it anymore more.

Time will tell though

I don't really care as long as all the parts for the current Defenders will be available for another life-time and there's plenty old ones for sale if some of us want to add to our collections

Glb8686 · Oct 6, 2013

Will defenders not just become 'kit cars' built by specialists in the US? Not sure on their laws on these things

Thor1950 · Oct 6, 2013

200tdi ayre said:
I can definitely see it, off-roading market is huge. The smaller farmer that doesn't need an F350

Small farmers won't want it they go with a F150 4x4 with 300HP locking front and rear diffs from the factory that has a higher towing and payload.

Thor1950 · Oct 6, 2013

Turboman said:
I thort there was a big ruckus about peeps trying to personal import defs tho

The rich fookers............ Is a status symbol as the Defenders here are V8's and sell for 50-60k US$$$$$$

Turboman · Oct 6, 2013

Thor1950 said:
The rich fookers............ Is a status symbol as the Defenders here are V8's and sell for 50-60k US$$$$$$

Worth evry cent to avoid the F150

200tdi ayre · Oct 6, 2013

Thor1950 said:
The rich fookers............ Is a status symbol as the Defenders here are V8's and sell for 50-60k US$$$$$$

50k is only £31 k about the price of a new one here

not that rich

Thor1950 · Oct 6, 2013

200tdi ayre said:
50k is only £31 k about the price of a new one here not that rich

we are talking about 20 yr old cars

Tops at moment $84,000;
Land Rover Defender | eBay

Glb8686 · Oct 6, 2013

Might start building defenders and shipping them to the use!

Thor1950 · Oct 6, 2013

Glb8686 said:
Might start building defenders and shipping them to the use!

Who is ............ use????????????

200tdi ayre · Oct 6, 2013

Thor1950 said:
we are talking about 20 yr old cars Tops at moment $84,000;
Land Rover Defender | eBay

Each so they're paying new money for old ones

They might aswell buy new ones

Hence production change to allow that

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