X eng brilliant hand brake.
I cant remember a spring on mine at all?
Just checked spring is on the calliper itself, have you glued the pads into the calliper?
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OLDUN
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Yes thanks for your reply have previously glued the pads. On closer examination the problem is the fixed pad touching the disc all the way round it and producing a loud whoosing noise louder the faster the vehicle goes - is there any way of solving this - have done about 500 miles and no sign of abating.
Is the calliper free to move?
When I fitted mine I greased everything just to be sure, apart from the pads!
I know there was an issue with some handbrake cables being ever so slightly shorter than others and not allowing the calliper to totally release.
Which hole on the arm have you got your cable?
Mine is quite low down on the arm and the brake is still excellent, I initially assumed you needed the very top hole.
When I fitted mine I greased everything just to be sure, apart from the pads!
I know there was an issue with some handbrake cables being ever so slightly shorter than others and not allowing the calliper to totally release.
Which hole on the arm have you got your cable?
Mine is quite low down on the arm and the brake is still excellent, I initially assumed you needed the very top hole.
Retroanaconda
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As above ensure the caliper is free to move on the sliders. May be worth a strip down and regrease.
X-Brakes do produce a slight noise from the pads on the disc but it should not be audible from inside the vehicle unless you have gaping holes in your seatbox. A stuck caliper would make this much worse and of course will wear the pad out too.
X-Brakes do produce a slight noise from the pads on the disc but it should not be audible from inside the vehicle unless you have gaping holes in your seatbox. A stuck caliper would make this much worse and of course will wear the pad out too.
OLDUN
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The disc is rubbing against the fixed pad on the caliper - the disc is clear of the pad operated by the handbrake lever. It is the fixed pad - the pad nearer the front of the vehicle - that is rubbing against the disc and there seems no way of adjusting it and this creates the substantial rubbing sound.
Retroanaconda
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It's adjustable in that it's a sliding caliper as above. Under normal conditions the caliper will move slightly and relieve the pressure of the fixed pad on the disc. There will always be a little residual pressure and hence some noise however as above this shouldn't be noticeable in the cab. If the slides get gummed up then it can't slide freely and the pad is stuck harder against the disc - hence more noise.
OLDUN
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Heard about the sliders but not sure what they are - have box with x-eng fitted on barn floor with prop off - when moving disc towards the 4 bolts the fixed disc is proud and thus when tightening bolts the disc pushing up tight onto the disc. I,m a bit thick when it comes to mechanicals and when pulling handbrake cable cannot see caliper moving only the inner part moving pad onto the disc to hold the handbrake - sorry but what are the sliders as to me the caliper seems fixed tight with the two bolts. Sorry a bit long winded.
Now you have it i suppose you are stuck with it. But a serious question is why anyone would fit an exposed disc on the transmission brake. Makes no sense, when the standard one is possible as good or better than the disc, and shielded from the elements to a greater extent. It's amazing what some will do and the money they will spend to no other end than to appear chic.
blue beasty
Leaks an prone to bits dropping off
Now you have it i suppose you are stuck with it. But a serious question is why anyone would fit an exposed disc on the transmission brake. Makes no sense, when the standard one is possible as good or better than the disc, and shielded from the elements to a greater extent. It's amazing what some will do and the money they will spend to no other end than to appear chic.
Alternatively you could ask why anyone thought it was a good idea to stick a drum in a position that guaranteed it would slowly fill with oil/road grime......and that's assuming nobody is daft enough to expect a working handbrake if they did anything bizarre like stray off the tarmac
Alternatively you could ask why anyone thought it was a good idea to stick a drum in a position that guaranteed it would slowly fill with oil/road grime......and that's assuming nobody is daft enough to expect a working handbrake if they did anything bizarre like stray off the tarmac
If the car is maintained properly that would not happen. I suppose servicing the hand brake would take marginally less effort, after all it takes five minutes to adjust the standard one and the shoes will need changing every 500 years.
OLDUN
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I was on a hairpin bend on a very narrow rough track on a steep slope with a sheer drop on two sides with the 110 hard up against the rock face because of the poor turning circle and the handbrake would not hold and I needed to reverse - that was when I decided on the x-eng -there is absolutely no chic on my part - I only put on what I think is the absolute minimum for safety - oh and have now fixed the x-eng as the sliders were jammed on the caliper - thanks Retroanaconda.Now you have it i suppose you are stuck with it. But a serious question is why anyone would fit an exposed disc on the transmission brake. Makes no sense, when the standard one is possible as good or better than the disc, and shielded from the elements to a greater extent. It's amazing what some will do and the money they will spend to no other end than to appear chic.
jamesmartin
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properly maintained standardd hand brake is more than adequate , poor maintenance even with a x brake will lead to poor performance,especially if your going to be driving in precarious situations
OLDUN
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I'm sure you are right - but I never seemed to get the standard one to work on the really extreme hence the changeover
So you had not maintained the standard brake properly then? The standard brake in good nick used to hard in emergency mode, will lock the rear wheels sufficiently well to snap an half shaft on dry tarmac.
blue beasty
Leaks an prone to bits dropping off
If the car is maintained properly that would not happen. I suppose servicing the hand brake would take marginally less effort, after all it takes five minutes to adjust the standard one and the shoes will need changing every 500 years.
Dunno about any of the others but i strongly suspect most Series boxes started weeping oil before they left the factory
The likes of X brakes are a little too rich for my tastes, like most Series owners I've always put up with a handbrake that's a bit crap when compared to any other vehicle...even after servicing.
jamesmartin
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not entirely true ,oil leak has to be quite bad ,brake does have an oil catcher its only when its not maintained its poorDunno about any of the others but i strongly suspect most Series boxes started weeping oil before they left the factory
The likes of X brakes are a little too rich for my tastes, like most Series owners I've always put up with a handbrake that's a bit crap when compared to any other vehicle...even after servicing.
Early LR rod operated ones maybe left something to be desired. But the later cable ones are more than good enough. There was a change some time ago that changed designation from parking brake to emergency brake. There was never a Mk II Jag or E type made that would pass the MOT for hand brake efficiency.Dunno about any of the others but i strongly suspect most Series boxes started weeping oil before they left the factory
The likes of X brakes are a little too rich for my tastes, like most Series owners I've always put up with a handbrake that's a bit crap when compared to any other vehicle...even after servicing.
